New poll: Majority of Americans oppose Supreme Court ruling on abortion

No, it's the Amendment that guarantees our right to privacy in our personal affairs, and protects us from unwarranted searches. I can think of no "search" more unwarranted than that of a woman's uterus.

You should read it, then read Section 1 of the 14th. Because of this decision, individual states are now allowed to tell women what they can or can't do with their own bodies. And please don't try using the "killing babies" argument. That's a purely emotional response, not based on logic or science but rather (for the most part) on religious beliefs.

Some states are planning to also ban contraceptives ... all of them. I wonder if that will include condoms or vasectomies? Nah ... probably not, since those things are the purview of men.

 

Does that give a mother the right to murder her baby in private? That amendment can be applied to just about anything if one wants to reach far enough. And killing babies is mostly a religious belief?! Dude you're out there!

 

What do you mean by "a fetus is never a human life"? Do you mean at the time it's aborted?

Pro choice is not a cop out ... that was rude. After all, choice is the core of the whole issue -- either women have a choice, or they don't.

 

And they still have that choice maybe just not in their state. New York will be a "sanctuary" state whatever that means.

 

Nice to see everyone is finally having this very important discussion instead of just having a one size fits all abortion right. Rape maybe. Birth control fail, no. That excuse will be worn out as the dog ate my homework excuse has been.

 

It doesn't mean anything to a twelve year old who's knocked up with her dad's baby, does it?

 

And you still didn’t answer the question…

Such a sad agenda when a simple question can dismantle it.

 

I would recommend any woman who wants to engage in sex do it responsibly. Find out which state still offers abortions of which there are many and put some money away to cover the travel expense. That is what responsible folks do. Responsible folks don't expect others to pay for their fun.

 

So you think a woman that is forced to have an unwanted deformed child costing millions to care for them should be the full responsibility of that mother? It’s a yes or no question.

It always boils down to punishing women and nothing to do with the child with you people. Always.

 

So dad goes to jail and the mom can take dad's money and travel to the nearest state so the daughter can have an abortion. There are many options for the child.

 

That was directed towards women who experience a failed birth control. Be assured there are still many options for women to have an abortion. Just stop listening to liberal media and look for the truth. Abortions have not been banned nationwide.

 

What if the kid doesn't have a mom? What if the kid ends up in foster care or a group home because dad's in jail?

 

That’s not what I asked.
Feel free to answer or stop the back and forth dodges.

 

I was pretty clear. I said if one believes a fetus is never a human life (which is a common argument), from a purely secular humanistic standpoint abortion should be advocated for. If you like you can change that to “at the time of abortion”. From a secular humanism perspective then we should advocate for abortion at whatever stage you are referring to. The point is from a secular perspective abortion prevents the existence of humans detrimental to society.

How is it rude? If the fetus is a lump of cells with the potential to do great harm to mothers and society, why would one not be pro abortion? It’s like saying you support the rights of child molesters to molest or murderers to murder.

I’ve been saying for years if the left wants the right to support abortion they should emphasize the drastic reduction in crime resulting from easily accessible abortion. They should emphasize the savings to entitlement programs. They should emphasize the reduction in innocent crime victims and prison populations.

This is what I mean about pro choice being a cop out. If there is to be broad support for abortion you are going to have to make it appealing to more people. If it’s good for the mother and society we shouldn’t hide behind “pro choice”. A secular humanist advocates for things that benefit society.

 

I'm sure you are familiar with Go Fund Me. I'm sure many pro-choice organizations will be more than happy to help out. This is America after all. I'll give you the last word.

 

There is always Go Fund Me. I'm sure there is money from pro-choice groups who would be willing to help out. This is America.

 

So women that are forced to have deformed children by the state because of people like you should turn to go fund me to pay for the medical costs of that unwanted child.

Evil

 

You got the last word.

 

Sounds like they got that diversity they've been after.

 

The reason for the choice has no impact on the real world result. The future belongs to those that reproduce.

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I see you don’t understand what that means either.

Seriously, how can you think you are on the right side of this issue. Tell her to go ask for donations after you have forced her to have a child that will require medical treatment until the day it passes because you don’t want it to effect you.

The cognitive dissonance is astonishing

 

Just the opposite, which is why I don't choose to discuss your nonsense.

 

I fail to see the point you're trying to make here other than an excuse to post some pretty pictures?

 

You're missing the point that there’s already broad support for the pro-choice position it's just that the extreme right figured how to seize the power through the court system while the left and the middle were asleep at the wheel.

I guess the middle don't care much about politics untill they do and the left are just far too altruistic in their perception of their opponents.

"They wouldn't do that would they?"

 

LOL. There is broad support but you are scared to death of deciding the issue through the democratic process!

The court relinquished their power and gave it back to the citizens of states to determine through the democratic process. A couple weeks ago progressives were hollering about needing to save democracy. Now a huge chunk of democracy has been handed to you on a silver platter and you are horrified by democracy.

Politics should be irrelevant to this topic.