Both in the UK and Australia the force used to defend yourself must be in proportion to the perceived threat
Seriously, I've used a firearm to dissuade thugs at least three times and reported none of those incidents. There are far more people who have had similar experiences than you realize. Thanks,
You are incorrect. For a shotgun you MUST have a valid reason to possess. Note the bolded portion. This is the second time I’ve posted this FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT. This is NOT my opinion or claim. https://www.gov.uk/shotgun-and-firearm-certificates Please educate yourself on your laws. Please.
You do not know your law. You need to read what I’ve provided FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT as it conflicts with your unsubstantiated opinions on the subject.
I’ve provided the verification to you many times. But here you go again. Here are the dates of your “study”abstracts. Now, here is the most recent data set that confirms Klecks revised numbers. The National Firearms Survey was conducted in 2021. It uses representative samples from all 50 states and questions were designed to eliminate bias Hemenway criticized Kleck’s original publication for in 1997 (over 25 years ago). https://deliverypdf.ssrn.com/delive...27121029100008073066071099&EXT=pdf&INDEX=TRUE Of course you are welcome to provide a large scale data set that comes to different conclusions. But I’m uninterested in one man’s opinion of from 25 years ago on another study from over 25 years ago.
gun banners want to punish people if they lose a child. They don't care about child safety, they want every law possible to attack gun ownership.
Me-did it several times. I had to shoot once-that was in the police report and the trial transcripts, the GJ Transcripts and the Preliminary hearing transcripts. Another time, I held a guy trying to break into my apartment at gunpoint. The Police showed up-took custody of a guy-who turned out to be either high or drunk, and there was no mention of me being armed. When I was a college kid, my parents were out of town during our winter vacation. Some guy tried to break into our house on a raised deck. We turned on the floodlights and he saw me and my brother lining up on him with shotguns. He buggered off. When the police showed up, we told them what we did. The cop asked us why we didn't shoot the guy and I said-he didn't come in yet and the windows are really expensive. He said-good job boys we will let you know if we catch him. I guess they didn't but I doubt us being armed was reported.
I've stumbled upon interesting bit of information. People often talk about our view on guns is relating to gun deaths. 65% of conducts are suicides. Are suicide rate is similar to Australia Japan Norway Sweden Finland and Belgium. If it was gun ownership that was a problem causing this then our suicide rate would be much higher.
the FACTS never really SUPPORT the FACADES that the Anti gun advocates put up to serve as a pretext for their real motivations. Since public safety is not their real motivation, why would you expect their arguments in favor of something they really don't care about , make sense
And you didn’t cite your source? Shame on you for not sharing /sarcasm And I hope you are factoring in amount of sunlight https://theswaddle.com/does-sunlight-make-people-suicidal/
The relation is to gun ownership. Some more guns equals more suicides there should be a lot more in the US. Look at your own graph where Japan is compared to we should be twice as bad as Russia if gun ownership was related to it.
You posted it in post 142. We have way more guns than Russia like several orders of magnitude more but they have a much higher suicide rate so suicide and gun ownership are not related. You already posted proof for my argument. More guns does not mean more suicide. Russia has what 18 million guns compared to our 500 million yet almost double the suicide rate in Russia. You proved my case for me.
So what? Cars and guns are two different things. Cars also have physical and digital titles. Guns do not. Once again, so what? And what good is that going for me at 3am if Mr. Bad Guy comes crashing through my front door? Do you suppose he is going to politely sit and chill while I retrieve my gun and ammo from not just one safe (which takes too long), but two (which takes way, way too long)? Come again? Believing that I need a gun to shoot someone who is about to kill or maim me makes me unsuitable to own a gun? I would say stupidity makes people unsuitable to post on the Interweb, but that hasn't stopped you. Of all the gun grabber comments I have read in the history of my being capable of reading, this takes the cake.
We passed such laws here in Washington State in 2018. Mandatory storage, mandatory BGCs for P2P transfers, mandatory online gun safety course to purchase semi-auto, etc. With an increased administrative cost of $10M per year. The results: total murders by firearm in 2018: 103 total murders by firearm in 2019: 135 total murders by firearm in 2020: 167 total murders by firearm in 2021: 209 (2022 data not yet available) CDE (cjis.gov) Oh, and 1 single prosecution for strawpurchasing a firearm ...after it was used to shoot someone. So basically we gutted our constitutional rights and spent $40M to double the number of people shot to death. If this was anything other than gun control, it would be categorically understood to be A TOTAL FAILURE. But 'guns bad!' so, I guess we'll keep failing up?
We are not 'most Western countries'. We are the United States of America, and we respect the birthright of self-defense that all of us are born with, that naturally includes the right (not privilege) of keeping (owning) and bearing (carrying) arms. So says our Constitution as ratified, and a whole crap-ton of case law, including cases that are happening right now that are destroying all the gun grabber fantasy laws based on the Bruen decision. And I'm loving the lib tears. You are not a fan of freedom, are you?
We already fought two wars with you guys to be able to do things our way. Would you like to start a third? Because we not only don't care how you do it in the UK, or Western Countries, or anywhere else, we do things the American way. That includes the right to kill people if they are an imminent threat to our lives, that of a family member, friend, or even a complete stranger. In my State, the mere presence of an intruder in my home is legal justification to blow them away, which is precisely as it should be. We have an expression for that: "Wrong house, mother f-er!" Except we don't abbreviate it as the censor software makes necessary, because we have freedom of speech too, something else you and much of the rest of the world does not have, in violation of your birthrights.
