New York judge lifts Trump gag order in civil fraud trial over free speech concerns

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  1. Nemesis

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    That’s unfair, my friend. I even tried to talk you off the ledge!
     
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    does this mean all gag orders are invalid now...

    what about all the Trump NDA's? we would not want to hinder anyone's right to talk about a President or ex-President, would we
     
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    Trump is obviously a man who loves transparency.
     
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    Well, no more spouting nonsense about how the Orange Prostate has the “right” to attack witnesses and court staff.
     
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    That is your position .. not mine. I Oppose Oligopolies monopolizing free speech .. thereby engaging in censorship .. and suppression of speech. It is you who favors the suppression of speech .. just like during Covid .. the suppression of speech and censorship by Social Media.

    Don't tar me with your failings -- I have enough of my own to contend with .. despising free speech just not being one of them.
     
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    You're the one who said shutting down MSNBC sounded like a good idea. Yet you claim to be against censorship. That sounds like a contradiction.


    And if MSNBC were shut down, where would we get the most reliable cable coverage of news?
     
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    If you weren't making predictions, you probably shouldn't have gone with that whole "first domino to fall" thing. But I'll let you get back to pretending Trump is the only defendant in history to ever have a gag order.
     
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    "Sounds Like a Contradiction" - Until one understands that a Media Oligopoly .. is not free speech .. and is the exact opposite of fair and free media - without which - there is no functional democratic process. The media Oligopoly is what the first amendment is trying to prevent .. so no contradiction .. sans prima facie
     
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    People should have free speech unless they are rich! Got it!
     
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    When did I ever say that?
     
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    No .. you didn't get it / catch point. A monopoly on Free speech is a detriment to free speech.. Now you got it :)
     

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