New York Times Publishes Darren Wilson's Home Address

Absolutely.

They didn't get the "justice" they wanted, (incarcerating a White guy who didnt do anything to deserve incarceration according to the GJ), so they're taking the next step.

 

Does MO have the castle doctrine?

If so, Darren, shoot those racist mother(*)(*)(*)(*)ers the second they step foot on your property.

 

Obliviously they do not care, if he's killed

 

Exactly. They were simply hoping to do a story about Wilson's house being burned down.

Again, I call for a boycott of the NYT and all of their advertizers.

 

I'm pretty sure social security numbers aren't a matter of public record. Can you show how they are?

 

publishing the address of anyone accused of a crime is wrong imo

really there is no need to ever publish anyone private home address ever....period

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I just came to see how the New York Times was being defended. Who is defending this action is entirely predictable as are the defenses. Of course, most of the defenses aren't defenses. The defenders attack the critics and say the information could have been gotten another way.

Of course, it doesn't have to be. The comrades at the NYT where they've change the slogan from "All the News that's Fit to Print" to "All the news that fits, we print" have already published it.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/news/ferguso...son-police-officer-in-ferguson-shooting/?_r=0

all the info was out there since August.

 

(CNN) -- Days after he fatally shot an unarmed black teen in August, Officer Darren Wilson was cutting grass when he was told his home address was circulating online.

Within three hours, he'd grabbed some bags and gone into hiding, according to his attorneys.

"He had to leave the grass, literally half mowed," his lawyer, Neil Bruntrager, told CNN's Don Lemon late Wednesday.

Since then, he's stayed under the radar by moving from house to house, including briefly living with one of his lawyers, and spending time watching movies in dark theaters to avoid detection.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/26/us/darren-wilson-leaving/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

From the "Right Wing" CNN... This is why you dont publish peoples addresses.

 

New York Times Reporters who put out Darren Wilson’s Address have their Addresses made Public

I have often said that turning the tables on liberals, such as publicly displaying addresses of gun owners in order to intimidate them or exposing the addresses of individuals aligned with the Southern Poverty Law Center will do wonders to demonstrate their hypocrisy. Lo and behold, that is just what has happened with two New York Times reporters who thought it a "righteous" thing to put out the physical address of Officer Darren Wilson, putting him and his new wife in danger. Now, their addresses are out in the open.

On November 25, Right Wing News' John Hawkins said he would link to anyone that published the home address of Julie Bosman and Campbell Robertson.

Shortly thereafter, founder and editor-in-chief at GotNews.com Charles Johnson took him up on the offer and sarcastically provided this report:

It would be wrong, for example, to publish Bosman's address at

5620 N WAYNE AVE APT 2
CHICAGO, IL 60660-4204
COOK COUNTY

It would be similarly wrong to publish the address of Robertson, too.

1113 N DUPRE ST
NEW ORLEANS, LA 70119-3203
ORLEANS COUNTY

So why do journalists think they are beyond examination?

How does it advance the story to know where Darren Wilson and his newly wed live?

I agree, it does nothing to advance the story and Campbell and Bosman had to have known that putting the address of Wilson out was endangering his life.

GotNews said it "strenuously objects to publishing the addresses of individuals who are being targeted with death threats."

Of course, and no one if threatening the life of either Bosman or Campbell, but turnabout is fair play, and for good measure, commenters even provided Ms. Bosman's phone number in case there were those interested in confronting her about posting Wilson's address.

However, look at the hypocrisy by some of the commenters in Johnson's piece. Note, that they cannot distinguish between a simple retaliation and those that put out address information while knowing there was a bloodthirsty mob waiting to carry out murder.

If you're interested, Bosman's phone numbers are:

Work Phone: 312-552-7204
Mobile: 646-753-2052

And Campbell's is:

5042187703

All of this can work positively be shaming these same people with the same tactics. For instance, when a New York newspaper decided it was their duty to expose law abiding gun owners and publish a list of names and addresses in its paper in 2012 and then hypocritically hired armed guards for protection, people got wise and published the editor's name and address. Also, the Des Moines Register thought it a wise thing to publish all of the schools in the area that did not have "resource officers."

There was also retaliation by Connecticut citizens following legislators vote in favor of gun registration.

While this author has no ill will towards either of these reporters and I don't condone any unlawful use of their information, sometimes it is good to teach them a lesson that what goes around comes around. The internet is a big place, websites are popping up all over the place and the citizen journalist is becoming commonplace. Do these people really want to go down this road of knowingly endangering the lives of others and think they will not be outed? One would hope not, but the heart can be a desperately wicked thing. Let's help keep it in check.

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/11/n...ss-addresses-made-public/#D9GKvSMTqhCAUf6V.99

 

If Wilson, his family, or his property is damaged, the Wilson family should sue the NYT for about 50 million dollars.

 

I for one am glad they did! That way people can drop off donations to him

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Why not 51 million?

 

and now someone in this thread has posted the names, addresses, and phone numbers of the authors of the NY Times article.

hypocrisy? yep.

 

Hadn't heard about that. How could CNN get by w/that, giving out a person's confidential info when people are always warned about the threat of ID theft? Then there was that putrid Spike Jones giving out GZ's parents address on the internet, then along came that other puke Roseanne Barr doing it..... what the hell is wrong w/people??!!

 

Are you willing to condemn the NYTimes for doing so?

If not, then becomes a case of "What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander."

 

of course.

the NY Times was very wrong to publish the address of Wilson and his wife.

now, will YOU condemn a member of this forum posting the addresses and phone numbers of the NYT reporters?

 

Democratic Process

Democracy is not meant to be any harder than forming a Tribe, and Democracy is not just meant for Governments. There is supposed to be Democracy inside Religious bodies as well as within Political parties themselves.

The voting body or city was known as the "Polis", and the Center of the Polis was the Agora. In some places the Agora had elaborate temple structures in order to maintain different functions that the groups did there, but when they first started they were usually as simple as an area marked by Stones as a border. The People would gather at the Agora and cast their votes.

As the Agora was used more and more, and functions were decided, structures would be built along the edges of the Agora, but the center was usually left as a wide open space for people to gather. the buildings they usually built were Court Houses and Town Halls and stuff. Extended Porticoes were sometimes used so that functionality of the space was not lost in bad weather. Sometimes Porticoes were built pretty much as their own structures, with a line of rooms at the back, which could be used as offices. Statues dedicated to different groups would be kept at these places, so that they could all gather in their individual groups or together.

The Polis itself was a larger reflection of the Agora. It would start off as a region of land which a group of people claimed as their own, with Borders such as rivers, mountains, etc. and slowly through the democratic process, groups were formed and projects were started, until farms were growing and cities were booming.

Leagues and Hegemonies operated like the modern United States or EU, or United Nations, in order to get things done between different nations and work together in times of war.

Eventually the Polis itself became Warlike and only eligible military members could vote, this eventually evolved into what is known as the Police, Policia, or the Polis. During Hellenistic times the Polis became a battle between Rich Oligarchs, and poor but armed citizens.

Today we can see most of the Polis and Agoras purpose being utilized in Universities, but not in too many other places.

Archive keeping is an important part of Government and Democracy. If people do not have information from past generations, then they can not make decisions for the future, at least not without running in to problems that would have been avoided if they had information about previous generations.

In Ancient Greece the most well kept archives were Law, lists of Public Representatives and the Winners of Sporting events. This is not much different from now, except now there is also the occasional story about someone who saves some animals, or starts a homeless shelter, or has an event, etc. But just like today, other records were kept by more specialized groups. For example, Temples were often a place where you could find archives, since the priests and worshipers would deposit anything important there. It would kind of be like if a church started a library, and asked all their members to donate any books they could that were written about Bible history or written by Historical Priests. Over like 100 years, that Church might actually have a pretty cool collection of stuff, even to non-Christians, it would be kind of like a Musaeum/Library of History.

I personally think that more "Temples" should be made, and more Archives should be kept. Even if it just happens in people's houses, there should be people collecting things like: Books written by people in their town, Books written by people in their family, Books written by Historical Figures, Books written in certain time periods, etc.

Most Theater, both Plays and Movies, are based on Greek and Roman Plays. Almost every Combination of Good guy and bad guy in almost any environment was already written about in ancient Greece, a lot of people just change the characters and settings to fit modern or even future events, and then make modern movies. For example. the Movie "Prometheus" is just Greek storytelling in Space. Even when it is not on purpose, most movies copy the story-line of existing Greek dynamics. So for an example, I think it would be cool if people who liked movies collected the plays that started the movies they liked, then found other movies based on those plays and put them all together. How awesome would it be to see the progression of a story all the way from ancient Greek telling to modern Movie "Magic".

Another cool example would be for someone who is interested in the modern Military of America, they could collect books written by people in service, then they could go through all the tactics that were used and the stuff that the people went through, and see if they can find other generals through history who used similar tactics, or Books by people who were under generals who used similar tactics, and then if there is ever a military mind that sees that collection in the future, it could effect the way he does things. Since he may learn something about the humanity behind all the tactics.

I am pretty sure you could also start with the books written by the last few modern American presidents, then after reading their books branch off into other areas that you notice while reading their books, and then keep copies of Obama's executive orders and any things the next few presidents do, and eventually you would have an archive that could definitely be useful to voters.

I have talked to people about the idea of Towns, and it seems like a lot of people think it is some sort of magic Craft to start a town. So here are some classifications and Political possibilities that most people don't usually think about.

Tribe: Tribes are the societies that exist outside of states. The State is equal to the Greek Polis, with its own sovereignty, and ability to join other states in a Union, League, etc. The people come together at the Agora (Capitol Hill in America) to make decisions, this is the state. Tribes are much more loosely governed. Tribes can be a collection of families, or a collection of religious groups, etc. and usually have some form of leader, either chosen based on the Tribes specialty (the best Hunter, or the best Warrior, or the Best Artisan, or the Oldest, etc).

A Club is a collection of 2 or more people that have come together for some common purpose. A Community is similar, except that is is a looser organization, and usually they just have the same values, not necessarily the same or even similar goals.

A Gang is any group of friends or a family unit that has a leader. For example, if there is a military family who all look up to 1 Grandpa figure who first joined the Military and started a tradition, that is a form of Gang. It is not an Organized Crime Gang, but it is a form of Gang.

Townships are the most basic form of Town. In America there are 2 forms of Townships, a Survey Township and a Civil Township. A Survey Township is just a unit of land that has been measured properly by a Surveyor, a Civil township operates like a County, in some states they are treated like a regular "Incorporation" type town. Civil Townships exist in 20 of the 50 states.

The overall name for Towns, Townships, Villages, Cities, Counties, etc is Municipal Corporation. To establish a town, you need a Town Charter. A Town Charter would be created by/in a State or County Legislature, and the people of that County would Vote for the new Town to be formed. A Town could also Vote to Split.

Villages are smaller than towns, and are not necessarily Incorporated. Depending on the State, a Village can just be a town that has formed with its own Government Body, but a smaller population than a town.

A Town is incorporated and follows State laws to form.

City is really just a big town in most places.

Counties are Administrative divisions designated by a state.

Common Law is how we get Laws from Court cases. 2 Modern Examples are:
1. The Affordable Care Act aka Obamacare
2. The Hobby Lobby Supreme Court Case

When the United State Supreme Court makes a ruling, it becomes "The Law of the Land" for all of the United States. This is common law. The reason it exists is this, for example: If you bring a Wolf to town, and no one has ever had a Wolf as a pet there, people might freak out. So the Police might get called, and they might give you a ticket, which establishes a Court Date. Then you have to go to Court, and argue your case, and whatever the Judge decides is the new Law for Wolf owners in your town. Maybe they say you have to give it a muzzle, maybe they say you can't own it without a license, maybe they say you can't own it at all etc.

Common Law works on all levels. US Supreme Court makes rules for the Country, State Supreme Courts make rules for the State, a County Judge makes rules for the County, and a City Judge makes rules for the Town.

A Common Heritage of Mankind is something that no one can really own, but everyone can use. Examples are the Ocean and Space.

An Embassy or a Diplomatic Mission is a group of people from one state/country, who own land in another state/country, and work to establish treaties and accomplish goals in that country/state. Once the Diplomatic mission establishes permanency it becomes an Embassy and the head of the Embassy is considered the Ambassador. Embassy can also just refer to the building or office that the Diplomatic mission is operating from.

For Democratic Non-Violent Protests, there are some Organizational tactics that can be used. If Clubs, Tribes are established, it makes it much easier to protest, this is why Unions are more successful when striking than regular employees are.

Here are the Supreme Court Rulings that are the "Law of the Land" and defend our Rights, such as the Right to Gather, and the Right to Free Speech.

Public Sit ins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_v._Louisiana

Police May not Plot Against a Protest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_v._Princess_Anne

The Local, State or Federal Government should not put "Breach of the Peace Statutes" in place, because they are more likely to incite violence than not
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cox_v._Louisiana

Police Breaking apart a Peaceful Crowd is Illegal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwards_v._South_Carolina

Most protests don't have any previous organizational structure, so the best way to establish it for the first time is to get people to line up in rows, then give each row of people a flyer to explain what their overall goals should be as a group, This way people can choose to do different things, but be following a main plan within the group that they talk to throughout the protest. Do not try to get people to line up constantly, this is only to create the foundational structure to accomplish a goal other than being loud, not a way to create a regimented force of soldiers. When passing out any other objects or flyers, they should be something that encompasses all the established groups.

The reason you want to make groups is to create more diverse functionality and thought. This does not need to be a division within the whole group, only within the core people that are there first. For example, if there are a group of people with Walkie Talkies in your protest, you would want to make this division within that group of people, so that you could all coordinate different plans. Examples of divisions of labor would be Making/Passing out Protest signs, Giving People Rides or Collecting Emails/Phone Numbers, Setting up a space where people can get water and maybe food, Making videos of specific protesters or groups and getting their names, Keeping an eye on the crowd to make sure no one is bringing like Molotov Cocktails in to start a riot, etc.

If you have groups you can do various things instead of just trying to be some random "Administrative Entity" over the protest. Goals should be to go to Libraries, Universities or Local/National News Broadcasting stations and holding "Sit Ins" or at least "Stand Outsides". These places are places that will get more people to come and join, as well as being more likely to be News worthy.

If you do NOT want to be in the News, use Profanity a lot, put a Cuss word in your Groups name (Ex: You can call yourself the (*)(*)(*)(*)ers and it won't be in the news) and if you want to stay off of Live Broadcasting, write the word "(*)(*)(*)(*)" on your forehead.

At least one person should try to get Emails or Phone numbers from protesters, the people there are obviously interested in learning more.

Any goal that you want to accomplish politically should be something you care passionately enough about to make a Pamphlet or a Brochure type thing, at least made up of a 2 pages and folded together to make a pamphlet. Not a lot of people understand that they can start political organizations (look up "How to start a PAC" if you want to make one) or how to run for office in local campaigns. So having information about how to do these things can be extremely helpful.

Protests are not going to accomplish much more than getting the word out, and eventually you have to tap in to Democracy and protest by getting new people in Office as Judges, Sheriffs and Mayors. TONS OF CITIES have District Attorney's that run unopposed. People only think to Vote for Mayor and Sheriff and stuff, they don't think of running themselves, and they definitely don't worry about who the District Attorney is. But that is such an important position as far as deciding who goes to jail in town.

 

ironically, it was this article from the NYT that converted me to believing the officer was justified in deciding to shoot that day

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...n-under-siege-after-police-shooting.html?_r=0

not everything a person\corp does is evil

people do both good and bad things.......

 

Its not like any of us think Darren Wilson still lives there.

We knew he had to go into hiding the moment liberal terrorists in the media decided to make him their next Obama distraction.

But that doesn't mean that harm still cant be done.

What if some relative or cleaning person or a real estate agent was at the house when a pack of Ferguson ferals showed up ready to dispense "justice"?

What if a pack of rabid Obama voters had gone over there and set fire to the house only to have to fire spread to nearby homes as well?

You're missing the point Dollface, or maybe you're not but you're just pissed off you were lied to, but its not the job of the NYT to hand out somebody's home address.

 

Classy and very mature. Such genius humbles me...

 

The Washington Post published the street in August. I guess you should have been pissed then.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e6fd5c-249f-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html

 

And they would lose. Your address, like that of Wilson, is in the public domain. Anyone, including the NYT, can find your address in no time.

 

Sue the Washington Post in August.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e6fd5c-249f-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html

 

Yawn. Scratch. Sniff. Snore.

 

What he did went far beyond what someone posting here should do, it was definitely wrong - although it looks like the mods got to him first!