Newsmax Host Celebrates ‘Total Annihilation’ of Gaza: ‘It’s Exactly What They Deserve’

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  1. TheImmortal

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    No sir. That’s incorrect. You may be responsible for safe passage and harbor for “civilians” (even tho nobody under 15 in Gaza is a civilian), however you have NO responsibility WHATSOEVER to provide them the same rights and fair trials as your citizens lol That’s patently absurd. Go ask the homies in Guantanamo bay. We still got 30 of them that haven’t seen a courtroom. And only 11 of which have we even charged with a crime.
     
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    I have seen quite a few calls for Total Annihilation of the population of Gaze (2 million people), and one 6 yr old Muslim boy was stabbed to death in Illinois.

    Well, no, we carpet bombed lot of civilian targets, but that was the name of the game on both sides. About 600 000 German civilians died in the allied raids. Fortunately things have changed since then.

    Israel has no intention of killing any more than needed, but many will die because the terrorists use them cover.
     
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  3. TheImmortal

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    Are we talking about the same Gazans that knowingly allow Hamas to set up in their buildings? Are we referring to the same Gazans who ran out into the streets dancing when Hamas brought Israeli women and children as captives and are on camera beating the hell out of them?

    Those Gazans?
     
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    Umm....no.... What part of "total annihilation of all 2 million Gazans" did you not comprehend?

    Israel will take down Hamas and has every right to do so, and some civilians die but to call for total annihilation of 2 million civilians is demonic, and while you might support such idea, Israel has no such plan.

    As a matter of fact, Israel just opened another safe passage for civilians to get out, so it seems its only you and Hamas who wants to see them dead.
     
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    Civilians? I’ll concede anyone under 14 or 15 to be civilians. But the rest of them are complicit. Why? Because, ignoring for a moment they’re fully aware of and supportive of Hamas and their stated goal of Israel’s annihilation (almost to a man), not ONE of them warned Israel. How many of those “innocent civilians” you’re referring to were fully aware or partially aware of an imminent attack on Israel? And not ONE OF THEM dropped a note to an Israeli soldier or made a phone call to tip them off. That is not a population of innocent civilians. Those are accomplices to brutal rape murder and torture.
     
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    The fact that Israeli intelligence (which is top notch), did not know about the plans, can only mean that very few people in Palestine knew about. It was very well kept secret and that was the only reason they managed to do so as much damage as they did.

    Israel opened another safe passage for civilians to get out, while Hamas tries to prevent them from leaving, so its only people like you and Hamas who wants to maximize the civilian death toll.

    Israel will take care of business there, so I don't get it that you'd want to kill more people that needed.
     
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    Wrong they did know about the training and exercises they were doing. What they didn’t know was internal information because those Palestinians didn’t warn anyone. You think they didn’t know their cousin or brother or whatever was involved in something like this? Are you being serious right now? Gaza isn’t NYC. They’re small communities where most people know everyone else. To assert that the VAST majority of those people didn’t know some big stuff was about to go down is just willful ignorance.
     
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    Not to mention if you live in Gaza are you gonna freaking stay there if you’re not supportive of Hamas? Or are you gonna leave?
     
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    How exactly were Gazan's supposed to leave? They have no airport, only two heavily-controlled border crossings, and 50% are under 15 and 80% are under the poverty limit. It's funny how there are so many internet experts on what Palestinian civilians should do when they don't have the faintest idea about how it would be walking in their shoes for just a day.
     
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    Yes, seriously, and its not my personal opinion. Israeli intelligence it top notch, and Gaza is crawling with Israeli spies and informants, and its said to be the most surveilled city in the world, so if the plan was common knowledge, they would have absolutely known about it.
     
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    And you couldn't be more wrong.
     
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    [QUOTE="notme, post: 1074477682, member: 64101"]The major obstacle to the Palestinian cause is Israel. It flat out commits war crimes with their unprovoked fascist policy to slowly colonize the East Jerusalem, Golan and the West Bank at the barrel of their guns. They've been at it with impunity for 75 years straight. It's all thanks to the west who only voiced to be against it, but economically and military support it on a bizar massive scale while veto all attempts in the USCG to do something about it.

    Putting it this way: Any American who would see the Mexican army with bunch of Mexican civilians thieve their property to start some colony in America, will get it's buddies and start blasting till them Mexicans are back across the border... at a freaking bare minimum. And people will hail those Americans in as hero's and be chanting USA, USA, USA. It leaves little to the imagination how groups like the Aryan Nation would react when spotting an ethnic Mexican American. The US government itself would be utterly relentless to that colony and Mexico as a whole.

    So it's easy to say Hamas this and Hamas that. But it's all fueled by Israel itself by utterly and utterly violently breach international law as an ongoing policy with no intent to stop at all. And it's been going on for so long, that Palestine basically can not be a viable independent nation if it remains like this. It's too fragmented and this is done on purpose.[/QUOTE]
    Yeah, if the Israelis would all die, the problem would be solved. Huh?
     
  13. TheImmortal

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    I know this. Living somewhere that I’m going to be beheaded because I’m anti-them, I don’t care how heavily armed the border crossing is or how impoverished I am. I’m going to leave. Period. Now if I harbor sympathies with them, I’ll stay.

    Are you under the impressions the Gazans are the only ones in history who have been in a similar situation? And guess what? Those people left.

    Oh and here’s the most important reason your excuse is bullshit. How many of them have left now? Hundreds of thousands of them. Under duress and bombing and resistance from Hamas over letting them leave. Yet you’re going to sit here and argue 6 months ago when they weren’t being bombed and they didn’t have Hamas watching their every move to see if they were going to leave… they couldn’t? I call bullshit because they just left lol. They COULD have left a long time ago. But they CHOSE not to do so.

    but they’re sure as hell getting out now. Because they’re not just kissing Hamas ass anymore and cheering for murdered Jewish babies. They’re about to feel the pain. So they left.
     
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    I figured that's what you were doing.
     
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    Israel said they saw them training and knew they appeared to be preparing for something however they never thought they would actually do anything. They believed it was more for show and to show they could do something if they wanted. But if a Gazan had come up there and been like “look bro my cousin told me some crazy stuff that’s about to go down, y’all need to be on guard”

    That’s ALL it would have taken. And the idea that with thousands of people taking part, a large swath of the population their cousins uncles aunts grandmas grandpas brothers sisters, they knew. But they didn’t say ****.
     
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    I said it twice and you didn't get it, so there is no point in repeating it. Its beyond naive to think everyone in Gaza knew about the plan, and Israel had no idea.
     
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    Sorry. I asked first. So I'll be taking you're just ranting nonsense.
     
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    It was October 7th 3 days ago?
     
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    But it’s not nonsense that thousands of them knew about it and Israel didn’t know that either?
     
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    Israel the the occupier of Gaza, West Bank including East-Jerusalem and Golan. And specifically about Gaza: Israel is the occupier since they they bulldozered 100's of house flat along the Egyptian-Gaza border on the lands of Gaza to patrol it. They also occupying their sea and occupying it's airspace. And by being the occupiers it means they are fully responsible for the well being of it's civilian population. Such is international law. Don't like it, don't go occupy it. It's rather simple. And currently, Israel refuses to comply with international law by implementing a collective punishment. The whole lot should be prosecuted over it. It's government as well as the head of the IDF. But so far the west is picking favorites on why may be placed above the law based on ethnic background.
     
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    Are you seriously attempting to compare bulldozing of homes (which by the way was done in response to wonton violence and kidnapping of Israelis) to running into peoples homes and stabbing their babies and raping their wives and daughters in front of them before they chopped off their heads and took them hostage?
     
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    I've already answered. I'll do it again: Israel isn't obligated to abide by the Geneva Convention in this case since Hamas isn't a signatory of the same treaty.

    Since Hamas slaughtered children and beheading babies, all bets are off.
     
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    I'm replying to the fact that you basically denied Gaza is occupied by Israel, and I showed you how Israel is the occupier.
    And please show me how I have compared bulldozering with anything. Obviously I did not, and you're just distracting away from the fact your wrong about the occupation issue.
     
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    It's not.

    https://casebook.icrc.org/case-study/israelgaza-operation-cast-lead
    Israel‘s High Court of Justice has confirmed that in the ongoing armed conflict with Palestinian terrorist organisations, including Hamas, Israel must adhere to the rules and principles in (a) the Fourth Geneva Convention, (b) the Regulations annexed to the Fourth Hague Convention (which reflect customary international law), and (c) the customary international law principles reflected in certain provisions of Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions on 1949. Israel is not a party to the Additional Protocol I, but accepts that some of its provisions accurately reflect customary international law.

    Please go condemn Israel making war crimes, or I guess we have to lob you in as a fanatic supporter of war crimes leaving everybody let their wild fantasies go on why on earth motivates a person to do that.
     
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