Nigeria imposes State enforced religion

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  1. thebrucebeat

    thebrucebeat Banned

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    Noone can control what you choose to believe, Neutral.
    I provided evidence to that effect. Do with it what you will.
    The Muslim majority is by a matter of a few percentage points, so to think Christians can not be influential is a bit silly, especially considering their access to the media in Nigeria.
    I thought it telling that in your other post you objected to my providing citations and you wanted to simply argue with me personally, not an "article". Most credible people find evidence useful.
    But again, believe what you like.
     
  2. Neutral

    Neutral New Member Past Donor

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    And all Christians are not Pentacostal in Nigeria. The largest Sect, the Church of Nigeria, split off from the Anglican Church over the issue of homosexuality.

    These are facts. They are not my beliefs. And from these facts, we can create hypothesi about what is most likely effecting this ban.

    The OP certainly does not blame Christianity, indeed referrencing Sharia and, repeatedly, the African culture that is strongly homophobic.

    What we get from you in response, is, to be blunt, the resut of a quick google search and a lack of familiarity with Nigeria that leads you to blame the Pentacostal church - and then commit the biased sample fallacy - by projecting this influence onto the whole.

    The Nigerian Church follows Anglican tradition and scriptura teachings, but is intolerant of the homosexual lifestyle while main stream Anglicans are more tolerant.

    The Pentacostal Church is aginst homosexuality in this country, and, yet despite the vast conspiracy in Nigeria that has brainwashed all Christians and Muslims, it has not had a similar effect in America. I wonder why that is?

    Who knows, because atheists are clearly just looking for after the fact justifications for preconceptions and are failing entirely to actually study the issue and form a learned position on the issue.
     
  3. thebrucebeat

    thebrucebeat Banned

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    Read the entirety of the two citations I gave you, and some hints to fill in your selective editing will appear.
     
  4. Neutral

    Neutral New Member Past Donor

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    So this passes for atheist logic does it?

    Failing to address any salient points made by another, or even the specific contexts as spelled out in the OP(Sharia and Culture), we must read two citations that were already read and rebutted because somewhere in there, apparently bured well underneath the clear thesis statement is the message you intent to get out - but its not the thesis statement of the article. Gotcha.

    Thesis:

    Supporting Evidence:

    Rebuttal of common position: (Which means you actually have to consider the opposing view point)

    Restated thesis:

    For the worshippers of logic, atheists seem ready to drop its dictates very quickly.
     
  5. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The reason for these actions against homosexuals is due to Religion in the Nigerian culture.

    It does not matter whether it be Christianity, Islam, or both.

    This serves as an example of how religious folks like to force their beliefs on others.

    I am just glad we have a bill of rights that claims that citizens are entitled to life, liberty, and persuit of happiness.

    It is unfortunate how Christian zeolots in this country try to degrade the Constitution by trying to force their religious beliefs on others.
     
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    Neutral New Member Past Donor

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    I am glad the atheist zealots can only beat the drum beat of religious oppression and then avoid salient points - which is amazing considering they have everything figured out, and yet still cannot address the actuality of issues.

    #1 - The Nigerian Church split off from Anglican Church, same doctrinal teachings, etc., over the issue of homosexuality. How is it that religious zealots from teh same church can so fundamentally disagree on the subject?

    #2 - Once again, and once again avoided, is African Culture, where male descendants pass along ... everything. Homosexuality is a loaded weapon pointing at that culture, and that is why Nigeria, whatever your religion is or even no religion, has adopted this law - one that finds favor across Africa.

    #3 - How are we degardeing our constitution by Nigerians passing law? Maybe you atheists should give the ritualistic fault finding a pass in favor of actually thinking about what you are saying before you say it.
     
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    It's interesting how you point out that the Nigerian Church split off from the Anglican over the issue of homosexuality, and yet deny that religion has anything to do with their oppressive laws against against homosexuals.
     
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    Take a look at my posts in the Gay and Lesbian rights section.

    Also, the US does not imprison homosexuals for the attempt of marriage.

    So that is an obvious difference.
     
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    That would again be because the entirety of Nigeria is not Anglican.

    And how can it?

    Athe Anglican Church and the Nigerian Church have the exact same doctrinal foundation and instruction. On one side, the Anglican Church is perhaps the most progressive church on homosexual rights out there, yet in NIGERIA, the branch is forces to split off ... now why is that?

    Because of the culture. Which no excuse seking to bash atheist will even acknowledge because they have blinders on and have utterly convinced themselves that homophobia is purely the result of religion, paying no mind to history, culture, etc.

    Its just another subject to use as propoganda.
     
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    I am amazed at how you can not seem go two posts without demonizing someone.

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    So those of the Nigerian Church are not religious zeolots ?


    Any passing glance with any integrity realizes that this is a religious issue and that religion is ingrained in culture and supports folks not moving into the 20th century and maintaining silly taboo's

    Folks can certainly oppress others without the aid of religion but "in Nigeria", without the aid of Religion such oppression would not be tolerated.

    We are not disregarding our consitution and I did not say we were with respect to Nigeria.

    What I said was that religious folks here in the US disregard the constitution by trying to force religious beliefs on others.

    This gives tacit support for others to do this as well.
     
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    Any idiot who was actually attempting to debate would respond to or at least acknoweldge the strong African Cultural reasons for the aversion to homosexuality.

    Additionally, such a discussion oriented person would offer up some explanation as to why the same church doctrine (Anglican) can produce two fundamentally opposite views on homosexuality?

    Now, a person not interested in debate, they would probably just blame religion and ask us to take their word for it, and they might also attempt to make the US Constitution relevant to Nigeria? They might also blow off the pro-offered text of the Nigerian Constitution as well, and then, despite its remarkable similiarity, not offer up any thoughful analysis - and probably just blame religion anyway.
     

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