Nikki Haley dodges question on whether a man can become a woman

Well to be fair I do think it's more women than men who buy into this whole "what I feel is reality" mindset. They are the ones who keep astrology afloat after all.

 

The current procedures are helping people cope with very difficult situations.

I'd never think of transgenders as being broken, not to mention chairs and other objects. I'm sure they go through hell until they understand, and accept, what they are. They don't decide to undergo lengthy, difficult medical procedures for the fun of it . Such procedures, however imperfect, provide much needed help.

 

Yes, for genetically normative humans. However, I was talking about potential, aka mutations, which are scientifically very possible. It would be illogical to assume that a mutation leading to naturally occurring change of sex in a human individual is a scientific impossibility.

 

Not in the animal world. Only homosexual behavior occurs among animals. How many years were we told that Roy and Silo are homosexual penguins because they made a nest and tried to incubate a friggin rock, even though they never had sex with each other. Then Silo hooked up with a female penguin scrappy, engaged in sexual relations and nested together producing offspring.

 

What scientific proof is there that our reproductive system has changed in that direction even at the littlest bit in the whole human history?

 

There is not a shred of evidence to show that such medical procedures do ANYTHING to address the mental disorder. They "help" transgender women sex workers up their game.

 

Aren't feelings reality as well?

A mother's love, or lack thereof, determines how the child will develop and live. Feelings determine reality indeed.

 

I wasn't talking about something that has already occurred. My post was about a possibility, not a certainty.

 

That like saying it’s a possibility we will breath water one day. There is no evidence that anything is headed that direction which makes it as make believe as the idea a man can become a woman.

 

No they aren't.

A mother's love has zero to do with with anything in this topic.

 

They, dictionaries and any published resourced material has jumped in line, embracing the mental disorder anywhere they can. It's creepy to witness.

 

I love how this thread literally has nothing to do with the OP and the headline now. Totally got derailed by people pushing a definition narrative as an excuse for all the non answers.

 

The chair isn't an analogy of their mental state. It's an analogy of their body going through these surgeries.
Whether these surgeries actual help their mental state is largely debated since this is all fairly new, but identity issues of all kinds are fairly common in youth who are building their self identity for the first time in their lives and becoming more independent. Adding a life altering surgery to the mix and confusion of gender and sex isn't really helpful in their development of concept of self. And yes, you build that concept and it evolves. It's not something you are born with like your biology.

 

And can be corrected by surgery for those who choose that route.

I have shown everyone with links, that those with gender disphoria have brain size and activity related to the gender they identify with.
So, I see you finally agree with that.

However, it's hardly a disorder, since that's how they were born. We can't yet surgically alter peoples brains.
But we can surgically alter their bodies.

 

But can surgically have 2 arms put onto their bodies.

 

The definition asked for is woman/women.

Yes, females can reproduce. But not all women can do so.

 

Now that you know what a female is, you should know what an woman is.

A woman is an adult human female. Just as a female bovine is called a cow.
A man is an adult human male, just like a male bovine is a bull.

Definitions don't change just because they are damaged ie a broken chair is still a chair. A cow without a leg is a cow. A human without a damaged overy is s still a woman.

 

Ok, give the definition of woman then. And not female.

You claimed a female reproduces. Not all women reproduce. So are they then not female? Or is female, not woman in 100% of the people?
Why are you claiming someone who can't reproduce broken. That doesn't seem very nice. They are not able to perform 1 function, doesn't mean they are broken. Just not 100%.

A chair with a loose leg is not broken chair. Just not 100% .

A human with a damaged ovary is a woman. But according to the female definition, not a female.
How about a transgender with a surgical ovary or similar?
How about a woman who has their ovaries removed for some reason?
What about the woman/women, who have a brain size and function similar to males?

 

Yeah, Photoshop and cosmetics have definitely improved over the years. I still see a male in makeup when I look at King.

She even say she struggles to find love because despite being a model, rich, famous, supposedly attractive, and showered with praise, men still see her as a male.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...-Top-Model-struggles-love-born-male-body.html

 

A dude will always be a dude. Even if they won a beauty pageant I would still never claim them to be nothing more than a guy with a mask on. They can’t even produce their own hormones. Not a single one of them.

 

Adult human female is the definition of woman. I explained this. I also provided examples of how that worked with other animals.

Definitions based on what a thing is made as or brought into existence as. A broken chair is still a chair because that's what it was made to be.
A human with one leg is still a human because that's what they were supposed to be.

 

King looks like a male with makeup on to me. And this is supposedly one of the best transformations supported by a ton of surgeries, makeup, Photoshop, and cosmetic procedures (such as a hair transplant to hide male pattern baldness) to appear more feminine...

I'm just not seeing what the left wants me to see. And I think deep down if they looked objectively they'd agree.

 

There is no evidence that surgery corrects gender dysphoria. Those who have medically transitioned have a suicide rate 13 times that of the general population.

 

No, that is the definition of female. A female doesn't have to be human or animal. Female can be plants.
We need the definition of woman. A woman can be a female if, according to the definition, it can reproduce.

...
female /fē′māl″/
adjective

1. Of or denoting the sex that produces ova or bears young.

 

You are just being obstinate.

Definition of Woman: An adult Human Female.

I never said the definition of female is "adult human female". That makes no sense.

I provided the scientific definition definition of female which offers more details. Of what female means. And knowing what female means is required to know what woman means.