Nikki's taking off the gloves.

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    The Young are always socialists then most of them grow up.
     
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    Yeah I am so worried that millions of young voters are sitting on this board saying-hey let's vote for the creeping crud of collectivist dependency because some older guy is bashing the turds who want to keep America sucking on the public tit as perpetual children who are unable to cope as adults.

    And this is coming from people who call Trump voters traitors, "seditionists" etc

    The majority vote means little to me.
     
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    socialism is what children want-they want adults to take care of them. and when they grow up, they tire of having to do that for other. socialism appeals to two types of unwholesome individuals. those who refuse to grow up, and the control freaks who want to be everyone else's parents
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Johnson has stated, in so many words, HR-2 must be passed in its entirety. That's a concession to Repub House extremists, not Biden.
     
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    You are right. Biden is struggling with younger generation because of his age and not his policy, except for his support toward Israel. From policy point of view younger generation, the immigrants, the African-Americans, the Hispanic alien with Democrats.

    Here is the exit polls from 2020. You think Trump can get 50% in 2024? I don’t think so.



    Problem with GOP is that in one side, moderate GOP wants to practice Reagan conservatism. Reagan conservatism is 50 years old and many of his policy no longer applicable in 2024. And those who don’t subscribes to Reagan conservatism, they are MAGA. I don’t have to tell you , MAGA politics has no future.

    I like Reagan conservatism. I think Reagan’s policies are good, but need adjustment, need some tweaking and bring them to 21st century.
     
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    Sure sounds like you are just as woke as them, complaining about "institutionalized racism". That was my point.
     
  7. Endeavor

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    Ah, a quote from Winston Churchill!

    If the strategy of GOP is that “young people will grow up and became conservative”. You have nothing to worry about! Good Luck!
     
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    wrong as usual. when the woke left tries to virtue signal about racist foundations of this country, it is appropriate to note that they support the only remaining form of institutionalized racism
     
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    well many do grow up and become adults. that often means they stop voting for perpetual childhood
     
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    I see, but this is how 7 yr olds argue

    Kid 1: "You're ugly"
    Kid 2: "No, YOU'RE ugly"
    Kid 1: "No, YOU are"
    etc, etc
     
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    I'll believe that, and I'll also believe that Nikki is REALLY taking of her gloves, when she withdraws and she shows she's still standing by her statement that Trump should NOT be President of the United States.
     
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    DEMS don’t need Trump voter. Trump voter will extinct by Darwinism. Average trump voter are 65+ White Americans. You should look around and see how many 65+ White Americans are there.

    And as far as “majority vote mean nothing to me”. have you notice since 2019 many democrats are moving to RED state and turning those state purple? Gorgia no longer a red state but purple. AZ is no longer a red state but Purple. VA is no longer a red state but Purple. 30 years ago Colorado used to be deep Red state, now it is deep blue state. North Carolina is still somewhat RED state but the way Charlotte is booming and all the “ elite” gay loving liberals moving into Charlotte, soon NC will be a purple state.

    So yea, keep your eye close , keep saying “ majority vote mean nothing to me”. We liberals are coming. We are coming to your neighborhood, we are coming to red state. We are bringing gay loving drag queen, we are bringing CRT. We are bringing $6 coffee. What else. Oh the EV car. Get used to it!
     
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    GOP lost 7 consecutive years – 20017,2018,2019,2020,2021,2022,2023.

    You think many American grow up and voting conservative?

    GOP has no policy to attract these young generation. Only “Hope” they will grow up and became conservative.
     
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    We do not need immigration reform we need immigration enforcement. We have plenty laws. what we need is an administration that will enforce them.
     
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    To be sure a few never grow up. We call then college professors.
     
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    not relevant. when someone claims that the right is responsible for something and I point out that only the left engages in it now, that is a very effective counter
     
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    well those dependent on government tend to outbreed those who are net tax producers
     
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    Yes. That is lately. Biden missed his window.
     
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    Trump can get enough to win.
     
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    Sorry, but there's no evidence for that claim.
    Let's Look at the Record
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    Richard Nixon Foundation
    https://www.nixonfoundation.org › look-at-record


    In fact, there were no “Paris peace talks” to be sabotaged. There had been ongoing low-level desultory meetings between the US and North Vietnamese delegations, ...
     
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    She's a Republican office holder, young enough to have a future. She has no obligation to self-immolate by attacking her party's nominee if she does not get the nomination.
     
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    Oh conservative can pretend they are “tax producer” and liberals are dependent on government

    Fact is 70% US GDP comes from Blue states. Without blue state sending their hard earn money to RED state, many of the RED state wouldn’t have lights turned on. But if it makes you feel better you can call liberals “dependent on government:”




    After the Midterms, One Party Controls All the Wealthiest Congressional Districts (yahoo.com)
    50 Wealthiest Congressional Districts in the US

    Biden-voting counties equal 70% of America’s economy. What does this mean for the nation’s political-economic divide? (brookings.edu)

    Another Clinton-Trump divide: High-output America vs low-output America (brookings.edu)

    Election 2020: Democratic counties represent 70% of U.S. GDP (cnbc.com)


    America has two economies—and they’re diverging fast (brookings.edu)

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    Underlying these changes have been eye-popping shifts in economic performance. Democratic-voting districts have seen their GDP per seat grow by a third since 2008, from $35.7 billion to $48.5 billion a seat, whereas Republican districts saw their output slightly decline from $33.2 billion to $32.6 billion.

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    if you want to pretend that blue states only have blue voters than your argument might make sense. Trump won the majority of voters making more than 100K a year, many blue state (such as NY) wealthy workers and military retire to red states which screws up your analysis
     
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    Haley never stood a chance at the GOP nomination. Nor did anyone else without the last name of Trump. It’s the same on the democratic side, no one but Biden. The difference is the Republican base wants Trump while the RNC and Republican Party leaders would prefer someone else. On the Democratic side, it’s the DNC and Democratic Party leaders who want Biden, they’ve done everything within their power to ensure no prominent or viable democratic candidate challenged him. The Democratic base would like someone else.


    “When Democrats and Democratic-leaning independent voters were asked who the party should nominate as its 2024 presidential candidate, only 33% chose Biden, according to the poll conducted by SSRS. 67% said they wanted a different candidate as the party's nominee.”


    https://www.axios.com/2023/09/07/poll-biden-2024-second-term-democrat-voters-cnn
     
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