NJ: Man sues after officers allegedly shot, paralyzed him while he retrieved ice tea from car

They should have backed off when he refused to identify since they had no legal reason to detain him and he had no legal obligation to comply.

 

if he was operating a motor vehicle they can certainly detain and ID him.

 

Sounds like was just sitting in one until they illegally detained him and violated his rights

 

Why he was a reported suspicious person who was not cooperating, they had probable cause to detain him, they are just supposed to let him run over the police as he tries to flee?

 

Having been reported as a suspicious person who was acting suspiciously when they approached him, they were just supposed to let him run over the police and go home?

 

What probable cause of a crime did they have? Sitting in a car isn’t illegal.

 

No they should have backed off when he refused since they had no legal reason to detain him or demand ID.
This is based off what’s been posted in this thread, if it’s not accurate then that changed things.

 

Based on what?

 

A complaint by a neighbor about a suspicious vehicle sitting on the side of the road.
What else do they need now? Presidential approval?

 

No a whole lot of ambiguity in crashing into a police car trying to run over the officers. The only real ambiguity is in the media false representation for a political end.

 

you’re not much for reading about the law I see.

 

Just sitting there. Didn't do nothing.

Only three pages of crimes in his court records. Rape of a minor, resisting arrest, aggravated assault, obstructing, drug trafficking.... the usual law abiding stuff. In a sane society, he would have put down or given a life term long ago. In our society he is let out until the moment he kills somebody or gets shot resisting arrest (which happened in this case). Not sure why they ever bothered arresting him. It accomplished nothing.

Thank God we still lock up white people when they turn vicious. It would be nice if they would lock up perps of all races when they become predatory. Not my neighborhood so I guess I don't care all that much. If liberals want violent felons terrorizing the local communities that is fine by me.

 

You are simply saying the same thing in a different way and saying it means something other than what you said

your default position, all other factors being equal, between taking the cops side or the criminals side, is the criminal. Period. End of story.

Lack of cams is not an indictment of the cops, just a testament to your ignorance on law enforcement as it concerns undercover operations. Your default position then takes control of you we all know where that takes you.

That same default position is so illogical that you think a bunch of undercover cops would just spring out on a black man sitting in his car and immediately break his window and start shooting, obviously with intent to kill as they shot him a bunch of times, but, perplexingly, they decided to stop shooting him and aid him in getting medical help which saved his life.

or did the man teleport his way to a hospital?

The implausibility of the cops murderous intent goes completely opposite the man’s life being saved medically. But don’t let that slow you down.

 

all traffic cops should have to wear them, if not, their credibility is less when they shoot someone

 

where did you read he was trying to run over the police

let me try to make up something, so he should have stayed there while people with guns try to kill him?

the police said this was a traffic stop, they were not in uniform, in other words looked like criminals with guns

 

What’s been posted. Doesn’t sound like they had any reasonable suspicion of a crime

 

A crime. You can’t detain someone and demand ID without a crime

 

What law is that? Cops can’t demand ID without a crime. What law did he break?

 

If stopped in a car, the driver must show license, registration, and insurance card.

https://www.aclu-nj.org/yourrights/what-do-if-youre-stopped-police

 

"A Mercer County detective investigating the shooting who watched the footage wrote an affidavit explaining the stop yet none of the media wants to publish it"

good deal, so they wore their cop cams, that is what I would go by then if I was a juror

 

Ok, I didn't read the article, and scrolled to the bottom to make guess...

I'm so excited to see if I'm right...


I'll bet the man was interacting with police, maybe even being detained as part of an investigation, and the cops repeatly told the person not to enter the vehicle, and the person ignored all commands and was shot.... and then used lemonade as an excuse to minimize all the facts that led up to the shooting event.

Amiright!?

 

"A Mercer County detective told NJ.com that officers were attempting a motor vehicle stop and Henderson was uncooperative, refused to provide identification and did not roll the window down.

An officer smashed a window open and Henderson attempted to drive away, crashing into a vehicle behind him, the detective said."



What did I win Bob!

 

he was reported as suspicious person which give police reason to contact him, aka reasonable suspicion and when he refused to get out of the car with his information they definitely had probable cause. You can most certainly ask for ID in that situation, something he’s very used to as a career criminal lunatic.

 

Still waiting for 1000s of black men in suits and ties driving their kids home from school getting pulled over for “just being black”. Oh wait. That never happens. People who get into altercations with cops for “being black” always seem to have a rap sheet and never are just minding their own business. Same ol story. Leftists try to frame the cops as racist and as usual, it fails miserably.

 

If he was driving. Was he? If he was then I agree but what I read sounds like he was not.