'No surprise' we're seeing coronavirus surge in Republican areas

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    And then took them off once inside
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    So the lockdown (feeble as it was) has saved more and more lives
     
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    ~ That does not seem to be the case in Europe. As soon as they life the curfew infection goes up. Cannot stay in lockdown indefinitely .
    The U.S. never really had a total lockdown . Los Angeles had a partial curfew - but the state never shut down completely. All the big box stores have remained open with early closing time.
    Who knows there may be areas with herd immunity ?

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-09-york-california-herd-immunity-scientist.html
     
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    Either treatment is better now than 5 months ago or it's not. Which option would you like to use? Hardly any countries had a serious lockdown but I agree with you that the US did not really have a total lockdown
     
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    A few did yes. Most from what I saw from a CNN video, did not.
     
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    You have a picture of 9, maybe 10 people not wearing masks. The black guy to the far right side of the picture there may not be when looking at his ear. Out of how many attended? That is assuming that picture is from that rally. Judging by the background it may not be. That is a close up picture of a few people. Funny thing about how pictures have been used as of late. If you get a close up picture you can hide things. I've seen rally pictures in the last two elections that were portrayed one way but if you had a picture from farther away then it would counter what was portrayed by the close up picture. Both sides do it depending if they want the narrative of tons of people attending or not that many people attending. How about you provide a picture of the rally from a bit farther away? Or better yet, a video from just outside the area.

    For instance:



    Watch the video when it pans through the crowd and you can see lots of people wearing masks.

    Btw, looking at that video the background does not match up with the background in that picture of yours at any point. For instance the only tan building I saw in the video has large windows while the one in your picture has small windows...and there's a lot more greenery in the video compared to your video of so many buildings easily being seen. Especially for such a low close in shot. I've got a feeling that your picture was taken outside of the area where people were invited in. More than likely right along side Pennsylvania Ave.
     
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    Perhaps outside the WH however a video showing peoples backs does not show if a mask is worn or not as you know a mask is a sign of Anti-USA and cowardice. However, what would be the point of wearing a mask once on the lawn of the WH when a few minutes before we have this?
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    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10...s-supporters-gather-trumps-white-house-event/
     
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    Don’t your studies on cardiac damage with C19 include asymptomatic cases as well as symptomatic? If that is the case, you are making apples to oranges comparisons. I think it’s time to at least admit we can’t make definitive statements about influenza because we’ve been so wrong about it in the past and are still learning about it’s severity today.

    Until I can find valid research to the contrary, I’ll continue to go with the valid research that leads to the above conclusions.
     
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    Bold: So iyo wearing a mask doesn't help? That's the only way to explain your comment here. Assuming that those same people in your new pictures were the ones that were let in to see Trump.

    Underlined: That's funny, I don't see any flags being raised in the video I provided. What do you mean that picture was made while Trump was speaking to them? Or do you mean that picture was taken while Trump was speaking to the group by the WH? As in, two separate groups?
     
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    Yes, that’s the danger of taking the media’s word for anything. In science or in politics. Combine the two and we are really asking for trouble.
     
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    No, highlighting the stupidity of those Trump supporters.
     
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    We were fine until entitled democrats decided they could start traveling wherever they wanted to go .
     
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    ~ No Trump supporters were harmed in the making of that photograph. They are all still alive. [​IMG]
     
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    No, just symptomatic. Mild, moderate, and severe disease, but all with symptoms.
     
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    What's your evidence that just Democrats do that? Remember the Sturgis rally?
     
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    I believe this is one study you’ve linked to numerous times.

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916
    Here’s a pull quote from the above link.

    So out of 100 subjects, 18% were asymptomatic.

    Perhaps you are excluding this study from our current discussion? It’s the one you’ve posted several times and we’ve discussed previously.
     
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    Stupidity does not know political affiliations. You can find it anywhere and a part of all groups.
     
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    It really irks leftists that Trump shrugged off Covid in like 12 hours.
     
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    New Jersey, New York, and Massachusetts must have been heavily Republican just 9 months ago.
     
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    Maybe liberals just don't like the statistics these days. I mean, how else can you explain their flight from Cuomo or Whitmer policy that put sick folks in nursing homes where they died.... But who cares? Right?

    Further, I don't get the fear of having positive testing that doesn't then lead to higher hospitalization or death counts. As we have seen in my part of TX, we have more testing and more testing is identifying more positive results, and yet, hospital census' aren't increasing, and death rates are actually going down as more cases are identified. It's like the best news ever, but here we continue to have democratic fear mongering.

    Wait till there's a vaccine. And it has to be "trump's" vaccine, and democrats refuse to take it because Kamala Toe says she doesn't trust it.
     
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    That's where their Oracle at Delphi powers come into play.

    They no longer talk about deaths, they only talk about cases and assure us that they will die, we just need to wait.

    They try to explain that hospitals are overwhelmed, but can't point to hospitals that are or ever were overwhelmed.
     
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