No way Kavanaigh is getting confirmed without an FBI investigation.

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Yes and he has gone through 4 unfettered investigations and 2 background checks. This is just a limited ancillary background check which will be over quickly.

    Has Ford said she is willing to be question?
     
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    No, you could not, blues guy. You could not get on the stand in front of the world and do what she did: not even 5%.

    The difference? It happened to her.
     
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    And if the individuals, who are questioned by the FBI continue to have no desire to get involved, state that they were not there, or that it never happened, that will ultimately be the end of the matter. The FBI is not going to torture a confession out of these individuals who are questioned to see what really happened.
     
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    Explain how her account qualifies as being believable.
     
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    Ford believes it happened to her. Those named as her witnesses do not believe it happened at all.
     
  6. spiritgide

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    Why not let the Dems investigate everything? That way who is truthful not will be decided will be decided by what they want to hear, and to hell with due process and all the constitutional guidelines that protect liberty. Instant "justice" for those they like; to hell with the rest of the country.

    People are in disgust and disbelief that such people can claim to be Americans- or people, for that matter.
     
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    I think that also - it just seems too contrived. Additionally, the axiom 'You can't beat the system.' is undeniable.
     
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    He has gone through background checks only. She said that she welcomed an investigation. Has he agreed to be questioned? Remember that He refused to
    endorse an investigation. It won't matter anyway, because the committee won't commit to a thorough investigation.
     
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    true.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Only members of Trump's flock are disgusted and unwilling to have an honest evaluation because they can't see the forest for the trees.
    No, the FBI should be given free rein so that they can do their job, and that is not happening.
     
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    Trump's base is only about power and have no interest in Constitutional values.
     
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    No person who is honest with themselves and has a shred of character believes that. The level of immorality, the loss of any trace of self respect shown by the dimms (and I do mean dim dems) in this event is utterly pathetic; lower than people could imagine anyone could go. It is impossible at this point to believe they are in possession of any kind of integrity at all.

    An honorable person does not bend the facts not ignore those that don't fit their objective. The objective here has nothing to do with Ford's claim, and for that matter- nothing to do with Kavanaugh's honor. It has everything to do with causing trouble, grabbing power to cause more trouble, and somehow vindicating the loss to Trump by blocking everything not allowing the nation to function. It's like some jackass that figures if they just whine long enough and loud enough people will pay them to shut up and stop making trouble. Small, spoiled children think that way- men and women who ARE men and women, responsible adults and not grown up children, never do that. These people wallow in it.IF they were still children, a responsible parent would take the to the woodshed and give them some character education in a way they would understand. Obviously, we have a lot of failures in parentage here, because they lack that

    The democratic party has allowed itself to degrade from reputable people forty years ago, to trash today. Not all at once- but as the last few generations have degraded in moral fiber, in dignity- the democrats chased that low-hanging fruit and started promising free things to everyone to try to hold votes and power. They have driven out the many of the original and honorable people, welcomed and praised the trash- telling them they are victims (nothing is your fault) telling them that society owes them a living, and in crap like this- telling them that you can control the honorable people in society by acting out without a shred of donor or decency. Core moral corruption.

    You obviously neither care nor know- but the FBI cannot investigate, because there is no federal crime. Trump has approved and endorsed the process anyway.
    The state of Maryland has said they would investigate, and they would have jurisdiction- except that no crime has been reported. In Maryland, rape has no statute of limitations. However, Ford says she was not raped. Criminal assault, which would probably be the charge if the story could be supported- has a 3 year limitation. NO charges or conviction could be accomplished, even if she did have corroboration. Of course in a lynching, the mob doesn't care- and that is what the democrats have become; a lynch mob trying to secure the power to terrify any opposition.

    Both agencies have stated that there is nothing to investigate; nothing to prosecute, and the story amount to little more than a baseless allegation.

    Ford is a pawn, a woman whose character and identity has evaded her all her life- and while I think she believes what she is saying, I also think it's a memory of the kind we call "a recovered memory" in psychology. (She did, in 2012, have therapy which helped recover and clarify this memory). That means it can be a memory with an origin in a fantasy, can have come from a story she read, in something imagined, something derived out of an adolescent crush- all of which can be fully believed but totally untrue. All the signs of that are present, while any reliable corroboration that the story is true is fully absent. Now anybody who weighs the facts and comes up believing the story justifies what has been done to Kavanaugh, is an idiot. Most at that hearing are not idiots- but they are readily willing to dismiss honesty for political gains. That make them far worse than idiots, they are very dangerous. And, pitiful.

    Good people only tolerate trash for so long- then things change. If you know what "Katy, bar the door" means, be aware that such a moment is becoming more probable with each act of total depravity that they pull.
     
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    The dimms think of it as "democratic".
     
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    I don't believe that Ford is lying about her experience, nor is she a pawn. And who is really "they"? Yes, the FBI has been authorized to commence a limited investigation and does not have free rein as claimed by Trump. Kavanaugh also lied about items listed in his yearbook. His roommate says he was a heavy drinker. So there is more to it than a sexual attack.
    I read your last paragraph mostly only since your post is unnecessarily long and fluffy. Both parties have degenerated in the last 40 years. Don't lay it on the Democrats. Look at the con who occupies the Whitehouse and who brings deplorables into his inner circle.
     
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    And now a seventh background investigation. That is the ONLY investigation the FBI does here. If you want a criminal investigation go get the Maryland police to investigate.

    Has Ford agreed to be questioned by the FBI yet?
     
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    What are you mumbling about now?
     
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    Then you are blind to all the others who have been in the whitehouse, put up the facade and talked nice while screwing you over, and got nothing done.

    Trump calls it as he sees it- and in this age, that is pretty ugly at times.

    He also has the highest stock market in history, gaining since the very day he was elected, and setting 100 new records in 100 weeks.
    The highest employment, the lowest unemployment, literally more open jobs that people on the unemployment list, and a long list of actually getting things done even in the face of all the trash-hangers in the nation wanting America to curl up and die rather than give him credit. It's bad losing taken to unbelievable extremes by unbelievably poor people. THOSE are the true deplorables.

    Sorry you want more lip service and less performance, but I don't think you will get it from this administration.
     
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    No way Kavanaigh is getting confirmed without an FBI investigation.

    That is true. His seventh FBI background check is going on right now.
     
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    That is what you are getting-- lots of lip service. Beware of the stock market. Only the wealthy can afford to invest. No help for the little guy, and it is on borrowed time. Getting things done? Infrastructure, Mexico paying for wall, National debt eliminated in 8 years (it is soaring), "better and cheaper" health care, social security and Medicare shoring up, tax reform (not tax reduction for the rich). These are his campaign promises, and bringing all those criminals into his inner circle qualify as deplorables. America is dying with this sex offender con-man in the Whitehouse, and he is 8 billion dollars richer since he took office, according to him.
     
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    A background check is not an investigation.
     
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    Actually, she has, and why wouldn't she? A background check is not an investigation and an investigation by the FBI can be conducted into testimony.
     
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    LOL!

    The FBI's investigation into Kavanaugh is far more Constrained than previously known,
    and experts say 'it would be Comical if it wasn't so important'
    https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-gop-limits-kavanaugh-fbi-probe-experts-react-2018-9

    "...The White House counsel Don McGahn, who is in charge of Guiding Kavanaugh's confirmation process, is ALSO Directing the FBI on the scope of its background check.

    "That seems like a clear conflict of interest,"...​
     
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    Horse puckey. I started investing with $500, and taught myself how. I have friends who have done the same, and has been a school janitor all his life. If I needed to write a $100K check today, I wouldn't have to check my bank balance. But people who say it can't be done are determined to prove themselves right, and always fail. Making money is the easiest it has ever been in my life- and just my business background goes back 50 years. An idiot can get a job today.

    Obama DOUBLED the national debt- and got us nothing.
    The wall, like many things- What might happen if people tried to help get things done instead of build roadblocks, so they could bitch about things not getting done?

    The losers and gimmie-sumthin free people are always acting if nothing is getting better, because it's not all free. Anything that takes time, money or effort on their part is some kind of rip-off.

    You are what you are because of the decisions you have made along the way. The founder of Bank of America didn't have a high-school diploma- and there are a lot of people in that club. It's ATTITUDE, not blaming everything on somebody else, that makes you a success. All any president can do is clean up the game and make it easier to play- and that is what he is doing. The losers hate that, because it is the opposite of the "somebody owes me" kind of politics, and the last thing they want to be is responsible.
     
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    Actually it is. It investigates someone's background.
     

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