Noah’s Ark just got more unbelievable.

And...?

Quantrill

 

Cool.. don't you think? It means horses were domesticate 4,000 years before they previously thought..

The first layers of Jericho are somewhere between 9 and 11 thousand years ago.. which falls right in the same time frame as the 11,000 year old granaries found near the Dead Sea.

Geologist have proven that Arabia was once a well watered Savannah with lakes and that the Persian Gulf was a valley.... 10,000 years ago.

Oil exploration generates thousands of core samples as proof.

 

AACK!!! This just ruined it: Saudi Arabia, the world’s largest oil exporter, is trying to diversify its economy away from oil and hopes to increase its tourism.

Last year the SCTA launched exhibitions in Barcelona’s CaixaForum museum and Paris’s Louvre museum showcasing historic findings of the Arabian Peninsula.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/08/24/163907.html

I wouldn't put anything past a Gov't to hoodwink people into believing anything when it comes to their economy! Making up crap to produce more funds...? I don't hold the integrity of the Saudi's too high... about as high as I would with a child with chocolate on his face to tell me the truth about where my Snickers bar went....

 

Hey genius... Was Iraq a country during the time of Noah? Where was the Ark?!?!

That is the question... An area as big as the Iraq could have been swallowed and I provided the evidence to say it could... Your evidence is - if that were true then Australia which is 13,000 miles away would also be underwater...

Someone actually (on your side of the discussion) thought you were joking about this - but I posted to them that infact you are serious!

So, here is what you can post... the answers to:

Was Iraq a country 3,000 years ago? Tell us genius... We wait patiently for your response...

 

Noah's ark as described in the Bible was never believable. Any wooden boat that size would break it's back on the first wave it met.

 

Prince Salman is my age and a brilliant, kind man.. He's the one that built a university in Yemen to train poor kids for the hospitality industry.

I have met him several times.. He's NOT a floorflusher.. Not everyone can be an engineer or doctor, you know. He has a number of other projects to diversify the economy and start small businesses.

I hope you are NOT put off.. I spent my teen years hanging out and looking at core samples...

This find is the real deal.

 

Naw, I don't care much for blogs as a source of information. Science is always pretty free with throwing dates out there.

Glad you enjoyed it.

Quantrill

 

There are dozens of new sources on this story..

Here's one:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44259874

Do you NOT believe in core samples? Geology or archeology or carbon dating????

This doesn't threaten scripture.. The message of the Bible is NOT dependent on fairy tales to be real or important or valid.

 

The Bible is not dependent on the lacking knowledge of science in order for it to be true. Science does not dictate what is true in the Bible. Where Science and the Bible are at odds, then Science is wrong.

See, you are correct. Science does not threaten Scripture at all.

Quantrill

 

And science shouldn't be a threat to spiritual study.

Jews decided 1000 years ago that where the science and the scripture are at odds... science trumps, but does NOT diminish the message.

Did you know that oil company engineers have found Wooly Mammoth fossils in Arabia.

This earth is far older and more wonderful than any of us can imagine.

 

It does not matter one (*)(*)(*)(*)ing iota if Iraq was a country 3,000 years ago.

Tell us GENUIS, was the highest peak in Iraq (which is Kuhe Haji Ebrahim at 11768 Feet ) around 3,000 years ago, or did it just pop into existence when the country of Iraq come into existence?

This is simple gravity. If the area that is know as Iraq today were completely under water, that means the highest peak would also be underwater. That would mean water would have to be at least 11768 feet above the current sea levels.

Now unless that peak is a basin surrounded by HIGHER peaks, everything that is lower on this Earth must also be underwater.

Tell us GENIUS – if the water levels are at 11,800 feet above sea level in the area know as Iraq toady – WHAT THE (*)(*)(*)(*) stopping the rest of the world from also being under water. Do you think there are bubbles of water that are 2 miles high that are the size of Iraq floating around on Earth?

I'll be awaiting your answer. Lets see if this sinks in - $20 says it doesn't.

 

It is very important.

This is truly unb(*)(*)(*)(*)ingbelievable you simply do not get this.

The story of Noah's Ark says:

A flood that lasts 40 days and 40 nights is not a flash flood, tsunami, outburst flood, etc. Why are you having such a hard time dealing with this?

 

The story of Noah's ark, like everything else in the bible needs to be taken with a grain of salt. I am a Jew and yet since there is no proof for the existence of a a perfect and all powerful being that shapes events as he pleases, I abstain my belief in a god until such a time that his existence can be absolutely proved or disproved. As such I take every story in the bible and look at with two filters, firstly that despite the fact that the stories of the bible can instill wisdom and new ways to look at things; it suffers heavily from hyperbole and fiction. Secondly that the messages and knowledge that the bible contains, while sometimes universal, were created for a culture that existed millenia ago. Noah's story imparts much wisdom about immoratily and forgiveness but i think that no one should actually treat it as though it happened as it is written word for word in the Old testament.

 

If the ark is true then how do we have snakes and worms?

How did the insect live?

If god wiped out all the sinners and just left noah and his family, where do chinese people come from?

the bible says the flood was 6 feet higher than the highest mountain. That'd be everest. This would require 4 times more water than is on the earth. Where did all the water come from and where did it go?

To fill up the world that much within 40 days, hydrodynamics would have waves travelling hundreds of miles an hours. It would have to be raining something like 1.9 meters per hour for the entire time.

Where is all the direct geological evidence of a global flood. There isn't any.

Its utter nonsense.

Those that believe in that the bible is in inerrent word of god obviously have some fundamental issues regarding the nature of their spirituality and the intransigence of their belief. Its as if they beleive that if they take the bibles word as truth against all evidence then somehow they are better christians that others.

to think how many people have been killed because of belief like that.

 

And there is a 0% chance that any wooden ship, much less one they would have been able to make, could survive that.

 

And it took a year for the waters to subside.. The story has some built in contradictions... as it also says all the mountains were covered by 15 cubits of water.

 

Good post. The whole point about all that past humanity has left behind is that there is an amazing amount of it we can use, if we don't take up the stupified stance Quantrill favours. Once upon a time the Greeks got obsessed with subjects that were essentially problems about the Greek language, yet they created a dramatic literature that works for us still, if we'll let it. Similarly, people were once obsessed with 'gods' as explanations for what went on, and as examples of power (to the extent that Roman politicians who pleased the Senate could become Emperor-gods). I was brought up a Christian myself, and there's no doubt that Jesus believed in a Father-God who was a great break-through for the time, however unlikely now. The real question is what were people saying about how we should treat one another? Examining and bringing that into current use is enough of a job for people who care, I think, whereas historical reenactment and using 'faith' to pretend to believe what we know to be extremely dubious is a huge waste of human potential.

 

SWEET!!!

Where I work we have a place for the public that has SO MANY rocks - core samples - minerals... My superviser is a hard core dirt digger from Alaska and brought down millions (not exaggerating) of rock samples. He has donated about four large boxes to this place here in Oregon - http://www.ricenorthwestmuseum.org/

I will be interested when part of the exibit goes on tour!!

Thanks again Margot!!!

 

Where in the heck are you getting this crap about Iraq? Was Noah Iraqi? I don't think so... Was Iraq even AROUND when Noah set sail?

What the hell are you talking about...?

 

Probably because I don't think it's true... You obviously do, but that's okay... I haven't read to many post from you that are that intelligent to begin with.

I understand.

See, how you look now? Do you really see how you look now? People laugh... I know I do!

So, you believe the flood lasted 40 days and 40 night and Iraq was underwater... You're funny...

 

No, I dont think its true, Ive been saying it cant be true!

Where do you get off saying I think its true?

BY the way, if you think its not true, then why do you keep posting links saying how the flood could be possible?

What do you think we are, idiots?

PS: the link was made just for you

 

Was it ever believable? It is an asinine child's story.

 

When you post links like this:

Then you are pretty much saying that it is possible.

 

The Great Flood occurred at the end of the last ice age when the waters of the Mediterranean flooded into what is now the Black Sea Basin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT5QH1tLPEo

 

I do not disagree that waters have been much higher than they are today. I find it silly to think that this man and a few children traversed the entire globe in search of animals. It must have been a considerable task. Like the rest of biblical ramblings it makes zero sense and is a child's tale.