Noah’s Ark just got more unbelievable.

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  1. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Its what happens when someone reads a 2,000 year old book, written when the earth was flat and in the center of the universe, by mysterious nomads, edited by unknown editors, all of which was written decades after the fact, to be the literal truth.

    As for who, the person quote in my signature is one of the guilty parties.
     
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    Article says 'estimates'. ESTIMATES that there are ...yada yada yada.

    Secondly, the ark didn't hold species, it held animals AFTER it's kind.

    Thirdly, you're ignoramuses.
     
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    If you accept the existence of an omnipotent god, such trivial matters are clearly resolved simply by claiming that god willed it.
     
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    So you are saying the ark held two of each kind..... two beetles...... and those two beetles became 400,000 different species of beetles..... two ants made 8,000 species of ants..... in only a matter of a few thousand years?

    lol
     
  5. rstones199

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    You may want to invest into some glasses.

    The estimates is 8.8 million, which I already conceded that there is probably not that much.

    However, we HAVE FOUND 1.9 million species. That is NOT an 'estimate'.
     
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    The obvious problem with this is that if the Bible said that God created a giant snake that crawled over the earth and ate everyone on his hit-list, then this too can be explained by appeal to God's will. The Bible could say literally ANYTHING and it could still be explained by appeal to God's will. Hence the appeal to God's will is no appeal at all. The appeal to God's will makes the content of the Bible 100% trivial.
     
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    Yeah, through adaptation, not evolution because evolution is wrong!
     
  8. rstones199

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    This is simple mathmatics:

    The highest peak in Iraq is Kuhe Haji Ebrahim at 11768 Feet.

    The highest peak in Australia is Mount Townsend at 7247Feet.

    Thats a differnece of 4521 feet - that .85 miles.

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    Now if you look on a world map, the only things separating Iraq and Australia, are oceans and Saudi Arabia. Saudis highest peak is Jabal Sawda at 9843 feet.

    Lets do some logic here:

    1 – Iraq has higher mountains than Saudi and Australia.
    2 – Water Flows downward not upward.
    3 - The only things that separates Iraq and Australia, is oceans and Saudi Arabia
    4 – The only logical conclusion, is that if Iraq is underwater, then Australia would be too.

    DBM aka FDS, Just go back to your government clerk position. Obviously, deductive reasoning is not your strong suite.
     
  9. DBM aka FDS

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    And a whole bunch of other stupid things. But, the fact that there was disease is a truth. The fact that there was a flood "could have" been a truth also.
     
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    Must have covered the Alps and the Andes as well.


     
  11. DBM aka FDS

    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Just a question genius...

    When the last Tsunami hit and flooded Japan - Did Australia get flooded? How about any other place in the world that was at that elevation?

    When Portland Oregon flooded last time, what other places in the world that has the same elevation got flooded also...

    If you are going to say such outlandish stuff, please show all who are reading that if there is a flood here - then across the planet will be flooded also. So, there are tons of floods to choose from... You can chose the China one since it's recent 22 people killed, 50,000 evacuated in China floods


    http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...ate-flood-control-drought-relief-headquarters

    OR you can chose another... I'll wait patiently for your response with a link and examples of how a flood can wreck havoc on the whole world...
     
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    Agreed, but with some, you have to start off a little simpler :)
     
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    I think he's writing a spoof... There are ancient cities all over the world that have no flood sediment footprint.

    Look at the granaries, temples and cities that date to 11,000 BC.
     
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    Hey Genius, when was the last time Japan (the whole entire country) was was under water?

    Hey Genius, when was the last time Oregon (the whole entire state) was was under water?

    Hey Genius, when was the last time China (the whole entire country) was was under water?
     
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    That a flood occured in the area surrounding the shores of the Mediterranean sea is a fairly widely accepted fact. It is thought that a dam, either an ice dam or a naturally occuring earthern dam broke, causing an inundation of water from the Black Sea which would have been locally disasterous. It is extremely plausable that a torrential rain, over a period of many days could have caused this catastrophe.

    No, Noah could not have taken representatives of all the world's animals aboard the ark. Many of them were totally unknown to the people living in the area, being found in parts of the earth that had not yet been discovered. What is possible is that either a man and his family, along with their animals, rode out the inundation or even that a group of people in seperate ships did so and that the flooding was so severe and so extensive that almost everyone else in the area died. A catastrophe of such magnitude would be embedded in the human consciousness and handed down from generation to generation making the story of the Flood something found not only in the Old Testament of the Bible but also in the writings from Ur in Chaldea in which Utnapishtum survived a similar flood.
     
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    I'll take your word for it... But, my gut says that he seriously thinks that if there is a flood in Iraq that everything at that elevation on the planet will also be underwater...



    Yes... But, you have to also look at all the cities under the Mediterranean Sea and I believe there are some under the Black Sea as well...
     
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    http://www.noahs-ark-flood.com/

    Noah's Ark and the Ziusudra Epic: Sumerian Origins of the Myth
     
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    Pretty high. Now their knowledge level was low, but their intelligence was pretty high.

     
  19. DBM aka FDS

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    The area of flooding isn't important - do you believe that if one area floods that everything at that elevation will be underwater even if it's 10,000 miles away?
     
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    The Ziusudra Epic explains only a small, localized flood. The Black Sea inundation explains a greater flood over a much wider area.
     
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    Interesting answer... I will agree!
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_theory

    The Black Sea theory made headlines a few years ago.. But it was a slow rising flood..
     
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    Per the wiki from my site it states as follows: ..."a violent rush of salt water into a depressed fresh-water lake in a single catastrophe that has been the inspiration for the flood mythology" (Ryan and Pitman, 1998 )
     
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