Noah Was A King Of Sumer

This seems to be the historical "Noah".........

in 2900 BC.

http://www.noahs-ark-flood.com/

The result of this synthesis is a reconstruction of a lost legend about a Sumerian king named Ziusudra who was chief executive of the city-state Shuruppak at the end of the Jemdet Nasr period about 2900 BC.

A six-day thunderstorm caused the Euphrates River to rise 15 cubits, overflow the levees, and flood Shuruppak and a few other cities in Sumer. A few feet of yellow sediment deposited by this river flood is archaeologically attested and artifacts at about this sediment level have been radiocarbon dated.

When the levees overflowed, Ziusudra (Noah) boarded a commercial river barge that had been hauling grain, beer, and other cargo on the Euphrates River.

The barge floated down the river into the Persian (Arabian) Gulf where it grounded in an estuary at the mouth of the river. Ziusudra (Noah) then offered a sacrifice on an altar at the top of a nearby hill which storytellers mistranslated as mountain. This led them to falsely assume that the nearby barge had grounded on top of a mountain. Actually it never came close to a mountain.

Skeptics are correct when they say Noah's flood (as it is commonly understood) could not have happened, because many of the story elements, such as grounding of the ark in the mountains of Ararat, would have been physically impossible.

This book uncovers how the mountains of Ararat got involved in the story (Noah did not go there) and locates the precise spot (within a few meters) of where Noah offered his sacrifice. This is a historical site (not on a mountain) that has already been excavated by archaeologists.

continued...

 

Time for a party!! Sorry, couldn't help it.

Interesting theory. I'll have to read more about this.

 

Evidently the flood was 150 miles wide and 350 miles long.. It covered the earth as they knew it.

There is a flood sediment so they know WHEN it happened.

 

It's also interesting to compare it to the Gilgamesh Flood legend.

 

Yes indeed...

In Bahrain.. they have found thousands of tablets.. Many are financial transaction records of trade between Dilmun and Babylon... but others recount the tale of Gilgamesh and other stories from ancient Sumer and Babylon.

 

What was the Name of Noahs Wife ?

 

She is unnamed in the older story.............

http://www.noahs-ark-flood.com/contents.htm

"Noah's Ark and the Ziusudra Epic"

 

I'm still waiting for the "continued..." portion before I offer any comment.

 

Oh that's easy enough.. Click on the link provided.

http://www.noahs-ark-flood.com/

 

the question is:
a) religious scriptures have been copied from myths/stories/folktales?
b) myths have been derived from religious scriptures?

in my opinion (as a muslim) the answer has been given in the qur'an:

so the same message has been given many times
to many nations in the past.

simple logical analysis:
if there had been a worldwide flood
and only a handful of people survived,
i think this is a story every nation built afterwards
would adopt whether they've had messengers or not.

something to ponder upon...

 

This ancient story is about the city-state Shuruppak ...




http://history-world.org/shuruppak.htm

Sumerian Shuruppak

Shuruppak or modern Tall Fa'rah, is an ancient Sumerian city located south of Nippur in what is now south-central Iraq and originally on the bank of the Euphrates River. Excavations there in the first half of the 20th century uncovered three levels of habitation extending in time from the late prehistoric period to the 3rd dynasty of Ur (c. 2112-2004 BC).

The most distinctive finds were ruins of well-built houses, along with cuneiform tablets with administrative records and lists of words, indicating a highly developed society already in being toward the end of the 4th millennium BC.

Shuruppak was celebrated in Sumerian legend as the scene of the Deluge, which destroyed all humanity except one survivor, Ziusudra. Ziusudra corresponds with Utnapishtim in the Gilgamesh epic and with the biblical Noah.

 

Margot dear. Your brand of christianity is.....well. I don't know what you'd call it. You do realize that Jesus mentions Noah?

 

It is quite possible that the Hebrews got the story of the flood from other sources, especially since Terah, the father of Abram, later Abraham, came from the city of Ur in Chaldea, the same area in which Gilgamesh supposedly reigned.

It is not important if the flood was over the entire earth or if it covered mountains. What is important is the lesson the flood teaches us, that idolatry and turning from God has consequences.

There is evidence of flooding in the area around the Mediterranean Sea and if there was a major, catestrophic flood, it would be imprinted on the racial memory of the people in the area since such an all encompassing event would be handed down from generation to generation in oral tales.

The lesson of the flood is that God caused a great catastrophe but saved Noah, a man who followed God's precepts.

Nothing else matters, so why all the head butting about how deep the water was, if the boat landed on a hill or a mountain or any of the other minutia?

 

Bingo..... that's it in a nutshell.

 

Yes.. Do you understand that the Bible is didactic literature?

 

so? Not only is it instructive but it is also the inerring Word of God

 

Its your right to believe the Bible is literally history and science.. that's a modern interpretation.

 

I think i'm just gonna take what you say with a grain o' salt. thankseverso.

 

I am trying to figure out how you can claim to be a Christian and also claim to be born again.

If you do not believe the Bible how can you believe in Jesus?

 

that IS the big question now, isn't it.

 

Oh I believe in the Bible, but not as history or science.

Some of us take Bible Study very seriously.

 

. I doubt she even knows what being born again is.

Christianity is Spirit knowledge not head knowledge

1 Corinthians 2:13-14

New King James Version (NKJV)

13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy[a] Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

 

You do not believe the Bible if you think it lies. You seem to think the Christian religion and the Bible are based on lies

 

Exactly.. Objective history is a modern idea..

 

That is your way to justify using intellect instead of being Spiritual. You sound more secular and atheist than Christian