Not so sure the Tea Party is going to last

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  1. TheLastBoyScout

    TheLastBoyScout New Member

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    If you treat its tenets like a fundamentalist, sure. The same could be said of any of the competing political theories.

    I think the important thing to consider about political theory is the direction it causes you to go from the status quo. If you break it down, people are very excited right now about embracing many of the ideas of Libertarianism. It's just not been one of the two choices that people have been familiar with their whole lives.

    Whether any of this actually results in an actual third party (to rival Democrats and Republicans) remains to be seen....but the ideas have been there....and are currently being touted by the Tea Party. Libertarianism will have influence as a practical framework in our politics for many years to come.
     
  2. Mac-7

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    Oh, well, we can't put up with that.

    The left has spent a generation trying to stamp out people with a religious bent or may be rather straight socially.
     
  3. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    LOL, I will take your post under advisement.
     
  4. TheLastBoyScout

    TheLastBoyScout New Member

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    I see you don't disagree with me on what I said.

    The Tea party is basically two coalitions of disparately motivated people. I don't think there is complete overlap between the fiscal element and the social/religious element. Right now, they're allied against a common foe in the person of Barack Obama, but absent this unifying influence, I think the components separate similar to oil and water.

    What you are then left afterward is what pre-existed the whole confluence.....the religious right.......and libertarianism...even if it's not recognized as libertarianism.
     
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    Would it make any difference to you if I did disagree?

    You see the Tea Party as a dark force and I see them as a ray of hope in a nation on the verge of losing its collective mind.

    I think 100% of the Tea Party are freaked out by Obama and his wild deficit spending.

    Beyond that some may also believe in God or not support gay marriage.

    But no one in the Tea Party disagrees that we need to reign in government spending and balancing the budget.
     
  6. Andromeda Galaxy

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    The Tea Party are basically foot soldiers for some greedy rich people who want to keep Bush era tax cuts and deregulation in place and have been conned. The reason why we are having these economic problems today is because of the steady deregulation and tax cuts being granted since 1980 under Reagan and the rich use propaganda, PR and play to the fears, unwarranted paranoia and ignorance of some people to help create the Tea Party. The Tea Party was the answer from rich people who wanted to keep Bush era tax cuts and deregulation in place against what they saw as a Democrat president who would roll back some of those tax cuts and deregulation. So basically, the Tea Party is nothing more than foot soldiers for the rich rather than people who really have the best interests of the nation at heart. The facts simply do not back up the positions that the Tea Party have taken. It seems like a lot of the people in the Tea Party are also pretty high strung folks and just need to take a chill pill and relax a little.
     
  7. TheLastBoyScout

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    You framed it as a retort....or rebuttal, but you just keep changing the subject.

    No. I don't see them as a dark force, but I do see them largely as an anti-Obama force..which is touting pre-existing themes....which is why I don't see them as a LASTING force...which was the contention in the OP.


    The Tea Party are a destructive force.....once they destroy Obama (actively if in 2012 or by default in 2016) then they will need to have a governing philosophy........right now that projects to Theocratic Libertarianism......which is something of an oxymoron.

    That's why....when you look at the span of time here....you see an inevitable fade away of the current incarnation of what we are calling the Tea Party.
     
  8. TheHat

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    Oh good grief.....lol.

    Lefties buy into their propaganda hook,line, and sinker don't they? Not even with a single question asked. One Democrat spouts a wish, and the zombies follow in suit trying to turn fiction into reality.

    The tea party isn't going anywhere. Y'all WISH it would disperse, but it won't. All signs are leading to an increase in tea party support. Because they are the last sane chance this nation has at saving itself.
     
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    Your logic is wrong for if Character assassination meant you are hated the Democrats and liberal media who are the kings of this would never get a vote
     
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    With all the articles this week and forum threads here doing character assassination on the Tea party I would say the left fears their growing momentum and know the Tea party will continue what they started in 2010
     
  11. Radio Refugee

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    There's precious little social agenda unless you count something like: "**** of my State/City/County government's business."

    10th Amendment secession is coming. Long overdue.
     
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    Get with the program. It's about Constitutionally limited government. That's all.
     
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    Unlike Obama and the democrats that want to destroy our financial system with outrageous taxes and over regulation
     
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    Spoken like most outsiders.

    Constitutionally limited government is being destroyed by both parties and the leviathan Executive. There is really no end to the fronts this battle will be waged upon.
     
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    After the 2012 elections, the Tea Party and their ilk will fade into history, just like the ill-fated Reform Party, whoever they were.

    The party platform is too narrow for the average American plus the psycho-political undertones and undercurrences are completely out of tune with American Society.
     
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    You will be really sad when the Tea Party continues in 2012 what it started in 2010
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only time will tell my friend; that's what I was told about the Reform party years ago and where are they today?

    If your right, then i'll be the first to publicly admit I was wrong.
     
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    I'm wondering why anyone cares if the people who make up the Tea Party remain active in politics, but I'm thinking that these people are more dedicated than the liberals in here who do nothing but hate one person or the other.
     
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    I don't think they actually hate the person, rather they hate the "politics" of the person. Some more then others. It's just the way things are and you'll probably never be able to change the way some people feel.
     
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    Thanks. As much as they have been attacked lately that tells me Democrats are afraid what will happen in 2012
     

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