Now its clear: Yanukovych died in Putin´s captivity. Why, When and How did he die?

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=347003&p=1063694455#post1063694455

 

Yeah. The brave guys rise their voice telling that there is no alternative viewpoint at the so-called anti-war meetings which gather dozens of guys. And they themselves make up an initiative to prove.... that it is impossible. I respect people's right to be a dumb idiot. But I don't buy when idiots try to make me think that they are kings of logics.

 

this a classical trick of many if not all child molesters , it calls double punishment when the beasts not just rape small kids but also blame the victims for what has happened with them: "too tight clothes , too late outside" etc.
pure pogrom
[video=youtube;sFocCSDgoNQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFocCSDgoNQ[/video]

 

As I mentioned above I am not going to compete with You in knowledge of rapist's behaviour. I understand that it is smth personal for you. But still. How do you estimate a decision of Kievan coup leaders to fight with a meeting in Donetsk by placing specially brought opponents from other regions? Isn't this decision a pure provocation of blood-spilling? Wouldn't it be safe to wait until the end of pro-russian meeting and start their own?

 

with science,
for me a pogrom, is very personal ,i know that you ok with this, ( as long you inside of tight group of pogormers )

"coup leaders", do you know that only Vatniks believe in this Putin´s propaganda pitch ? for rest of the world(all states recognized them) - they are Government of Ukraine

Donetsk by placing.... bla, bla, bla, C0ck-a-doodle-doo-a-doodle-doo...you´d know this term already - double punishment , you guys butchered 3 and almost lynched all of them, and new you blame the victims for getting in "troubles" , try better my blood thirsty opponent

 

No. I believe that people have the right to come to a square and tell what they think is right. I believe that they have a right for freedom of speech and a freedom to vote and to define their future. That's why I support Donetsk people who want to call for a referendum like it happens in Crimea. That's why I was against of Maidan which has never had any democratic demands that were not met from the side of yanukovich.

Not 'all the states'. So far noone has voted for these thugs. I see only uprisings against this coup. Peaceful uprising. And I see that these guys sent oligarchs to the east. To rule and to supress. And I see no reason to call a coup leader a democratic leader of a democratic country only because someone from the US told it multiple times. I see that there was an illegal seize of power and I think accordingly.

At the moment the guys from Batkivshina political party are shooting from a mahine gun to citizens of eastern Ukraine. The killed guy was wielding a knife. So there is small wonder that his opponents prefered to kill him without being stabbed themselves. Although of course it is a sin and a crime. But as I mentioned already there is a war in the Ukraine. And there is no point to pretend that it is not there. The war is only not happening in Crimea. Due to a high level of organisation and geographical position.

 

which one did not?
and which one has accepted your Crimea annexation ?

 

Which did? There were press information, but the current leaders have to pass the elections. For the moment they are temporary. As for annexation wait until the results of referendum. Have patience. If that is really the desire of crimeans - then we will of course back our brothers even if the whole worlds declares war on us.

 

are you an expert on U constitution? or "vetsi" gave this this info to you ?

 

Elections is the only legal way to get power in democratic states. Know of any others?

 

this more philosophical discussion, but its still way batter they you form of governance.

 

It's actually a yes or no type of question. So is there a democaracy besides the elections procedure?

 

a good question, man don't watch vatnik TV, it will kill your brain. Look Putin lost his mind , you (as a former solder) know what war brings ...

 

Putin didnt lose his mind, he made the west lose their own, krim is now "indipendant" and the west can't force them to go back to Ukraine so its more or less game over, now fighting will start and in the end Krim will remain "indipendant". what's crazy about that ? more then any principle the west wants compremise. every anti-western knows it.

 

you are wrong, the last Anschluss took place in 1945, and Putin´s Russia is not a USSR and not Hitler´s Germany .
remain "indipendant", you are worng here again, right new Putin is signing Anschluss paper

 

The question is good. The answer sukcs.

 

this just a pure nightmare , our region in one step from a big war ....instead of development, and cooperation

 

He doesnt have to actually annex it, they are free to choose a "patron", no country will send troops to regain Krim for Ukraine, Ukraine can't fight head on with Russia so it down to terror groups, the moment to solve it the way the west wanted has passed IMO.

 

I haven't noticed any development and co-operation towards Russia so far.

 

he did it already http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

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with other words they have no future , as part of Georgia they ´d do way much better ...

 

The future is theirs. You cannot refuse anyone of the future. But if it is good or bad it is the decision of Abkhazia and Ossetia. Not mine. Not georgian. Theirs.

 

Oh right, missed that, now he has a chip if things get out of hand for him, he can pull out and let it remain "indipendant", either way it wont be part of Ukraine no more. win-win for him.

 

no he could not, according Russian constitution - Crimea is a part of Russia

 

they dont exist (as the numbers of the world continuity )