Now that 2-tier system has been 100% proven, where do we go from here?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Darthcervantes, Feb 14, 2024.

  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    They are in a bubble, and it's going to pop.
     
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  2. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    And trump, biden and pence haven't been charged for that.
     
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  3. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump has to go to trial for his classified docs issue in May of this year. When is the Pence and Biden trials? I forget the dates.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyone that attributes trump with moral values — a frequent adulterer and narcissist who has had numerous businesses closed for fraud that is unable to tell the truth — shouldn’t be taken seriously
     
  5. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its a good thing nobody is voting on Trump's loyalty-in-a-marriage skills then!
     
  6. Cybred

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    Because trump refused to give them back when asked, pence and biden did give them back.
     
  7. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ahh yes of course, back to the good old "the crime doesn't matter if you give it back years later" excuse. Please come up with something better
     
  8. Cybred

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    Except that's what's happening, all trump had to do is give the docs back and nothing would have happened.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He had them for way less time than biden did and took them as pres, not VP. Since when is the law you can take something but if you give it back it never happened? this is news to me
    3 words:

    TWO
    TIER
    SYSTEM
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Denialism again. You just can't get your lens in focus.
    You confuse infidelity in a personal relationship with the capacity to guide a nation- but you fail to connect advanced dementia, a history of botched jobs and a trail of corruption with it.
    I don't see anything that qualifies your views as worth any serious consideration.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Picked to lead America by god himself"??? Where, to hell? To the Looney Bin? To poverty? to the total destruction of the nation? To - ALL OF THE ABOVE?

    Winston Churchill responded to statements that democracy was terrible. He said, Yes- Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others."

    Trump is the worst politician/president- in exactly the same way.

    That may change if Jesus decides to run for office. Until then, we should take the best man available, not the equivalent of Dunham's puppet "Walter"
    Unfortunately, we seem to have a lot of people who don't know the difference.
     
  12. Cybred

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    So you don't understand. Got it.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You said morality

    You can start adding additional qualifications now that you have been called out but it doesn’t do your argument any favors.

    For the record, trump also failed as a leader
    He failed during Covid
    He failed at gdp growth
    He failed at fiscal responsibility
    He failed with trade wars
    He failed with promoting integrity
    He failed at rallying his party to pass bills

    But like I have said — we all have our different standards I guess
     
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    Two-tier justice systems should be no surprise to MAGA folks. The only difference between MAGA and the left on this is the person they feel should be above the law. For the left, Biden should not be prosecuted, but Trump should. For MAGA, Trump should not be prosecuted, but Biden should. Two sides of the same dumb coin, but neither side ever seems to realize it.
     
  15. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong on so many levels. I don't see ANY righties calling for prosecution for one but not the other. All i see is "but biden was nicer about it and kindly returned the docs a decade later"
    Its the LEFT thats calling for UN EQUAL standards
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Then at best, you're simply not paying attention or at worst, you're being purposefully dishonest. You can find examples of such right here on this forum.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry, not seeing it
    I've seen the following:
    The right saying Biden's was worse.
    The left saying Trump's was worse.
    But in most instances, only seen the left trying to justify it against trump because he was less compliant. What else can we apply that philosophy to? Should we grant immunity to serial killers that tell us where the bodies are right away?
     
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    If you think Trump failed and Biden didn't.... Damn.

    Inversion thinking for protection against confronting existing beliefs.

    Once people take a position, many will cling to it no matter what the evidence, so they won't be wrong. The result of that is inability to correct thinking and gain. Self-deception. Stuck in the quicksand, doubling down on the choice over and over.
     
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    I noticed you didn’t debate a single point I made and just used your typical debate strategy of ranting.

    Damn indeed.
     
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    Need I say more?
     
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    Putin agrees with you.

    https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/putin-says-russia-prefers-biden-over-trump-in-u-s-election-1f07e178
     
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    Yep, trump, biden and pence are not being prosecuted for taking or having documents.
    Trump is being prosecuted because he did not give the documents back.
    Biden and pence can't be prosecuted for not giving the documents back BECAUSE THEY GAVE THE DOCUMENTS BACK.
     
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    Simple fact. Trump WAS NOT charged for any documents he willingly returned once asked. Trump WAS charged because he lied to
    the FBI about retaining documents and tried to hide them. The Obstruction of Justice charge is rather air tight.
     
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    When you throw horseshit on the table and expect it to be discussed like it was evidence of anything but what it is, you should expect to be disappointed.
     
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    It must be a peaceful world to never have to question your own narratives and just say everything is “horseshit” or a conspiracy.

    Feel free to have the last word, I would hate for you to walk away from this… debate… without achieving something.

    Cheers bro
     

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