NY Times blasted for defending 'pornography literacy' for first graders: 'These people are sick'

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I bet you pull a debunked study from when homosexuality was illegal out of your hat?

    Or is it the one that refused to release its data metrics and was funded by religious organizations?

    Or the one that used self identification to quantify the percentage of homosexuals vs heterosexuals in the general population but then used self identified heterosexual males that offended against boys and reclassified them as homosexual while not increasing the first metric…


    Your ilk have used all of these pathetic ploys to justify their bigotry. The largest offender against children are men who identify as heterosexual (and are heterosexual in their adult lives) and have a close relationship with the child. Access is the largest contributing factor to abuse.
     
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    First grade? Too soon, way too soon. Especially if you consider that the abstract reasoning centers of the brain don't develop until the mid-20s years of age. This stuff should be taken in college...

    ... but, that said, there has been a growing call to deal with the problem that porn is considered to be harmful and creating unreal expectations about sex. And kids are going to find porn by the time they hit puberty. That's what, 12 years old for boys, and 8 years old for girls? That's only a few years away. And no, we aren't going to ban all porn from the internet. So here's an education course to fill in a solution to this problem.

    That said, I'm glad I never had to take a sex education course when I was a kid. I would have been so mortified! *phew*
     
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    No actually it’s the Bureau of Justice Statistics.

    you got any more excuses?

    Also I notice you didn’t attempt to define the age of consent.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Feel free to post the study then

    Why should I define something that is easily looked up? Age of consent is the legal age that an individual can consent to sexual intercourse. That number is based on decades of study by legal and psychological organizations.
     
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    Interesting. What is that number?
     
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    https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/CVVOATV.PDF

    The vast majority of child molestation is committed by males. The statistics show that their victims are 24% male.

    Whereas males who have sex with males make up less than 3% of the total population. Males who have sex with males make up ~24% of the total child molester population.
     
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    Sadly, there are many parents who don't or won't teach their kids about sex. And so many more that just say 'don't do it'. In that case, its the kids who end up screwed up or pregnant or contracting STDs.
     
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    FauxNoise is SICK for LYING to their audience!

    NOWHERE was any "pornography literacy" provided to any "first graders".

    This entire OP is just FLAMEBAITING bovine excrement!


    Facts matter to everyone EXCEPT those who BELIEVE the crap spewed by the extremist rightwing LIARS at FauxNoise!

    Sad!
     
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    Bovine excrement FALSEHOOD from 1996!

    Sad!
     
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    Ah, so you picked the third option

    “Or the one that used self identification to quantify the percentage of homosexuals vs heterosexuals in the general population but then used self identified heterosexual males that offended against boys and reclassified them as homosexual while not increasing the first metric…”

    The vast vast majority of those males that offended against boys report as heterosexual thus your 3% figure would not include them as self identified homosexuals. Your 3% figure is also off seeing that the last study puts it at almost 6% (and climbing yearly).

    People seem to lose all sense of logic when they are trying to justify their own bigotry. Maybe they didn’t have any to begin with.

    Note your source does not say these are homosexuals as they are tracking child molestation and not sexual orientation. Again, it is terrifying that you cannot compare the difference.

    It’s amazing how predictable these arguments always are.
     
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    False. I used the same metric. Males who have sex with males.
     
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    That is a false metric though. It is a self assessment. Many men who identify as heterosexual have sex with other males yet they are not accounted for on your desperate low information attempt to smear gay people. The majority of males that offended against boys identify as heterosexual.

    Do you have a source that shows 100% of the individuals that offended against boys answered in the affirmative that they are homosexual?
     
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    What they identify as is irrelevant. You cannot be heterosexual and be attracted to and have sex with males. That is a contradiction of the word.

    That’s tantamount to asserting, “I’m an atheist. I believe in God.” Then by definition you are not an atheist. And by definition a male who has sex with males is not a heterosexual no matter what he identifies as.
     
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    Child rape is not an act of heterosexuality or homosexuality. Since “what they identify as is irrelevant” — where did you get your 3% figure from? Let me guess — polling based on self identification…

    Strange…

    Again, child rape is not a heterosexual or homosexual act. I know bigotry is blinding and desperate but damn I hope you are not serious in your qualifications. Terrifying if so, it would explain the projection however.
     
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    Hey @cd8ed remember a few weeks ago we were talking about how eventually radical progressives would start to defending pedophilia because the nature of being a radical would keep them pushing the bleeding edge? I wonder if things like this are the opening act.
     
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    It's a subtle yet important point. He won't understand but thank you for clarifying it so succinctly that others might.
     
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    The Extremist Religious Right has been NEFARIOUSLY attempting to equate homosexuality and pedophilia for many decades now.

    Unfortunately for them the FACTS and EVIDENCE have established that MAJORITY of pedophiles are HETEROSEXUAL males with families.

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2011/10-anti-gay-myths-debunked

     
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    :roflol:

    The latest Faux Outrage of the Day.

    Much Ado About Nothing...

    "The group defended itself, calling the video 'tongue-in-cheek humor"

    ^I guess some people just can't take a joke?
     
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    Where has anyone defended pedophilia?

    Sex education isn’t pedophilia although I agree there should be an age cap.
     
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    I don't know of anyone that's defending it now. What I'm been saying, in this thread and in the other one, is that the way radical progressives are going one day they'll probably get there. Maybe one day we'll look back and see that things like this were the beginning.
     
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    I disagree.

    The only people constantly bringing up pedophilia and the desire to reclassify it are conservatives and actual pedophiles and conservatives only do it to accost gay people because none of their end of the world predictions came true.
     
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    Well as you know that's not my design. I don't regard it as a 'gay thing', rather as an extremist thing which is what progressives typically tend to be. I'm also not looking to be right about this so I hope I never am.
     
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    No you don’t and props to you for that, it was meant as general criterion not universal.

    The reason why I don’t believe pedophiliac action will ever be normalized is due to the harm it creates as well as virtually no one supporting it outside of the pedophiles themselves.

    Comparing this to the gay rights movement, there is no victim and many groups and individuals supported gay people prior to it being legal.

    Even at its lowest levels, around 30% of the US population supported legal same sex relations; contrast that to the 2% - 3% of Americans that support pedophilia becoming legal and that number appears to be relatively stable.

    There is a movement in the psychological and medical community around removing the stigma of being attracted to children but that is only so individuals can seek professional help instead of harming a child. They in no way support the offense.

    In my opinion we need much much harsher penalties for people that sexually abuse a child, especially very young children.
     
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