Oath Keepers sharing with January 6 investigators their efforts to find election fraud, communicatio

Seems like they are closing in on the sources.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/09/politics/oath-keepers-january-6-election-fraud-trump/index.html

Will they connect the dots legally? Will it be enough to implicate, in a legally liable way, anyone connected to team Trump?
This goes along with my gut instincts initially. I think members of team Trump knew that the Oath Keepers and others were planning a violent force to "stop the steal", maybe even encouraged it, maybe even suggested it.
We will see, but it is looking more and more like there was some coordinating of a violent action.
What do you think?

 

There's too many "according to sources" in the opinion piece to make taking the opinion seriously. Therefore I dismiss it.

 

A quote from the article

yet he never did that. He never told people to forcefully oppose the transfer of power. Not once. He did tell them to go fight and in that same speech also said to go to the capital and peacefully protest. So I’m not sure how accurate these sources are.

 

And you know that how ? How is what your saying any more "factual" than what CNN is saying

Look, 6000 people didn't show up out of the blue, without some coordination by someone. That "someone" may be a person, or a group, but there was coordination by SOMEONE. Those people all had the same end game, to stop the transfer of power.....how did they all have the same "mission" ?

Do I think Team Trump did the coordination, no. But do I think they knew what was going on before it happened, ABSOLUTELY

 

The investigation continues. !!!

 

What do you mean they all had the same mission? Many of them didn’t even try to get into the capital.

 

Not sure why you call it an opinion piece, as most if not all of it are facts, at least reporting what someone said, a lawyer for one of the defendants.
And yes, there is a lot more to uncover, and I think we will see that shortly. None of us KNOW what exactly happened, but my original theory was that Trump's team set up a rally, close to the Capitol building and at a time where, when all fired up, they could go to the Capitol and protest the ceremonial reporting of the electoral college votes from each state to be accepted by Congress. Happens every four years.
Personally, I think Trump and allies really only hoped the crowd would cause a ruckus, but had an inkling that there could be more trouble. As far as team Trump was concerned, the more trouble, the better, as it would stand a better chance of stopping the vote acceptance process.
When the crowd turned ugly, and violence started, and windows and doors got smashed in, and they had to evacuate the chambers, putting a halt to the confirmation process, Trump loved it. Ate it up. Like the scumbag he is.
Maybe, though, they will uncover a deeper plan, possibly even orchestrated by team Trump.
I think eventually we will find out the truth.
This also illuminates the reason we needed to have an investigation into this.

 

The mission was to stop the free and fair election.

But you knew that

 

No I didn’t. The mission was to protest. It was a small percentage that even tried to enter the capital. Most just protested outside.

 

Why did they protest ? What was the mission of the protest ?

 

The mission of the protest was to express their discontent with the election results. It wasn’t to raid the capital

 

This alone should inform you that it's an opinion piece.

"Kellye SoRelle, a lawyer working with the Oath Keepers, told CNN that she has met with the FBI several times and handed over phones. She declined to say more about what she's shared with investigators . . . ."

Anything beyond that is speculation (the food of opinions).

I'm fine with investigation, but investigation are known to be driven by bias.

 

Wrong, the 1-6 commission has shown that it was to stop the certification of the election, thus to install Donald Trump

 

For those who entered the capital. Not for those who did not. You are wrong. And if the 1-6 commission is saying that about all protestors I’m disappointed that they are playing politics.

 

So all I learned from the article is that some people went to DC to protest the election and some tried to get in touch with Trump and were refused.

 

Trump could not be legally installed as POTUS without the certification of the Electoral votes. Challenging the votes is perfectly legal and has been previously done. The only thing the idiots of 1/6 could accomplish is to delay the process. Changing the process would require an amendment to the Constitution with the approval of 2/3 of the States.

 

Our compatriots conveniently leave out trump directed pence to stop the certification and Trump as well as plenty of his supporters said the same.

 

Not exactly. Trump and co.'s plan was to get Pence, or congress, to NOT certify enough electoral votes to not allow Biden to get enough to win the election.
Then, when no one had enough electoral votes to win, the decision would go to the House of Reps., but only one vote per state. Knowing there were more Republican states than Democrat, they felt like the House vote would give the election to Trump.
So the plan revolved around the electoral votes not getting certified for Biden, at least enough to cause it to be decided by the House.
They had a lot of people thinking this would work, and convinced them that if they "fought" enough, it could happen.

 

I understand your point, but I think you have it wrong. The plan was to challenge the electoral votes tossing them back to the States to recount and recertify. Trump would still need a certain amount of electoral votes to be declared the winner of the electoral college. Tossing out Biden's votes wouldn't get him there.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingent_election
And I remember reading several times that this is one of the plans Trump and associates wanted to try. I have no doubt they had other plans as well.
I'll bet some of them we won't even hear about. I personally like the "declare martial law" plan, which was shot down by the head of the military.
They seemed to indicate they would try anything, so it's not hard for me to believe that they thought a mob of protestors could have an effect, at least on the Republican senators.
What's the old saying? "By hook or by crook"

 

The mob did have an effect on the Republican senators. They decided to drop their objections to the State electors.

 

You mean the that fraudulently introduced illegal electors and sent those to the national archives.

 

I'm not sure of your point.

 

Define the difference between the protesters that stormed the capital, and those that did not ? What was their purpose for being there ?

 

The cause of 1/6 was completely manufactured by Trump and his supporters to the point of conspiracy to over throw the election. A number of people have already plead guilty to such charges.

Yet Trump and his supporters, including federal representatives, are still stating the election was stolen. Your notion that it is all in the past is complete BS.