Obama Allows Limited Airstrikes on ISIS

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/w...s-said-to-bomb-isis-targets-in-iraq.html?_r=0

Isn't that interesting? What do you guys think? I don't really have an opinion on it.

 

According to Wikipedia, The US Defense Dept said that 864,000 tons of bombs were dropped on Vietnam.

Killed a lot of people, destroyed a lot of infrastructure, made some in the Military-Industrial-Congressional Complex rich. Didn't win the war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Rolling_Thunder

 

Noteworthy is the fact that before the U.S. invaded Iraq (Desert Storm); ousted "dictator" Sadam Hussein; and "saved" Kuwait (which had illegally seceeded from Iraq), Iraq:

1. Had freedom of religion (secular).
2. The Minister of Defense was a Catholic.
3. Two other ministers were females.
4. Had female lawyers; university professors; doctors, scientists; and women were leaders in all walks of life.
5. Women dressed American style and drove nice cars -- and voted!
6. Capitalism and the commercial business community flourished.
7. Except for Israel, was the most democratic nation in the Mid East.

Now, the whole enchilada belongs to Jihadist terrorists who are slaughtering Christians

 

It has since been reported that the Pentagon came out and said that this report is false and the U.S. didn't actually carry out airstrikes on Iraq, although they are currently being considered.

 

Obama has provided food and medicine not airstrikes. That being said, who is our mysterious bomber?

 

yeah he only gassed 5000 kurdish, oppressed the shia magiority and started 2 wars where died 250 000 iraqi, but these are details.

 

Where did you come up with that?

 

From the NY Times article.

Not sure if any of this comment will be on point or not.

That's actually not a bad estimate from a civilian source, but those are minimum drop altitudes (AGL). The only type of airdrop currently used to deliver platform loads from an aircraft is low-velocity airdrop, and the extraction method is used. Basically a cargo extraction parachute pulls the platform load from the cargo compartment of the aircraft.

Cargo parachutes are used to slow the descent of the platform loads to minimize landing shock. Depending upon the type and number of parachutes for low-velocity airdrop the minimum drop altitude (AGL) will be between 475 - 1,300 feet.

From what I understand after reading the article any type of airstrikes, if they are used, will be in support of the cargo aircraft, exposed to small arms fire from the ground while flying low and slow. This is essentially a humanitarian mission and not a military offensive. It would be wise to maintain the delicate balance of addressing this acute humanitarian crisis while simultaneously not getting too entrenched operationally.

The Kurds are enduring +100F degree heat and require an immediate supply of food, water and medical supplies. They'll die in a matter of days if this is not undertaken.

 

Pretty much of a stretch to call a country run by a dictator a democratic nation.

 

Sky News reports that Prezzy has authorized the U.S. military to carry out strikes on ISIS militants near Iraqii city or Irbil if necessary to protect amerikan citizens and attacked religious minorities, on its Breaking News tape.

 

Seems there were international sanctions against Iraq for killing lots of its citizens. France was one of those less than international countries that couldn't get the translation quite right.

 

Well, I'm glad something is being done about the Islamic State. The airstrikes are the least we can expect America to do to combat this threat, and airstrikes are Obama's preferred method anyway. They won't win the war, but now, with some breathing room, it's on the shoulders of Iraq to shape up and be the main line to combat this threat.

The unknown bombers might be the CIA...

 

Ok guys just so you know, they changed the article for the link. If you mouse your pointer over the link in my OP on the first page you can see the site it would have brought you to, and it's about Obama bombing targets in Iraq.

 

I hope someone can destroy ISIS, it's the most terrible terrorist so far, can't let ISIS grows stronger. Iraq is already like hell, I wonder if there any other middle east countries willing to do something on this, and I m not sure if the US government allows them to do so.

 

I don't see this as doing any amount of good.

Either go full bore, ignore the crap politics, and wipe out ISIS to the last man, or get the frock out.

 

Obama will be the first president to authorize airstrikes against the equipment he gave them or left them... More Obama history in the making!

 

Yeap,
but nothing compared to the reality since the US invasion/war on Iraq. Since then, the country is really in deep (*)(*)(*)(*)...
Regards

 

Yeah,
and how would you achieve this?
With every war since WW2 on middle eastern countries the Muslims/Islamist come out stronger. With every war, the West can kiss his life goodbye, just a question of time. I wished it would be different, less wars and more tolerance.
Today it must be said, that Iraq despite the horrors Saddam committed, was far better off then it is today.
Maybe allow ISIS to build their world, within a given space, surrounded by a high wall, instead of trying to bring Burger King and a very questionable democracy to other countries...
Regards

 

Kuwait was separate from Iraq by 1925 or so.. Historically it had been the home of the Dllmun civilization,, and later controlled by the Portuguese. Saudi Arabia took part of Kuwait under the Uqair Protocol and Sir Percy Cox.

Iraq was never much of a "democracy"... They only had one party .... British history in Iraq is long and violent... and included gassing the Arabs by Sir Arthur Harris.

 

A simple search for the facts rather than relying on US media for propaganda. The internet is your friend.

 

If Obama goes ahead and attacks those bastards of ISIS it'll be the most humane thing he's done in his presidency.

 

The one thing that is absolutely clear and beyond any dispute is that the more we interfere in Iraq the worse the situation gets.

 

Why not you brits and the French? It doesn't seem to even occur to you. You certainly have the loudest most sanctimonious mouths, why don't you show the world that you have balls as well.

Or once again you want the US do the dirty work while you smugly lecture them about the evils of war from the comfort of your tiny flats?

 

I think the first move has been to drop food and water.. humanitarian relief to the Yazedi and the Christians...

I think he's going to have to bomb ISIS...

This could go on and on..

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The US took out Saddam Hussein against the advice of the EU and the Arabs.

Remember that whole "freedom fries" idiocy?

 

We didn't bomb Hanoi early on. We didn't bomb the Ho Chi Minh trail early on. We didn't pursue the NVA into Cambodia early. Militarily, we destroyed the VC and the NVA where ever the military was authorized to attack. It was our civilian leadership who failed to win the war in Vietnam.