Obama and BLM found in violation of federal law in Nevada

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  1. EggKiller

    EggKiller Well-Known Member

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    Must admit professor while I've seen that story I haven't really delved into it. Sounds quite disconcerting and comes at a very bad time what with the Feds getting their pee pee's slapped in Nevada.
    Yet if there is a nefarious plan behind this move I see it doing more harm than good in the eventuality of govt against citizen warfare.
    They just slapped the national guard across the face very hard with this move. Moral must be at zero. Chances of the guard taking up arms against the citizenry just dropped out the floor. Even the regular army units know where they're new used choppers come from. The grunt in the hole knows where that whirly came from. Our soldiers aren't stupid even though the elites believe they are.
    I'm sure the military is capable of making some bad mistakes but as for rolling over the citizens in mass. Not gonna happen.
    Ask any soldier, in a choice between Obama or the country Obama loses,,,,and usually with zeal.
     
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    Is this the blog that used to be the Rocky Mountain News? If so, it has a long history of promoting these spurious stories.

    It's pretty clear from reading the statute that there's nothing to this.

    The blog post presents no evidence that the Sherrif of Clark County wasn't contacted. There's plenty of reason to suspect, given Mr Bundy's long history of antics, that the Sheriff may have been contacted and was perfectly content to let the Feds handle Bundy.

    Crackpots defeneding scofflaws and right wing politicians pandering to crackpots for votes.

    That's what we have here.
     
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    In the remaining months of his presidency, I wonder how many more threads there will be trying to blame Obama for everything?
     
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    EggKiller Well-Known Member

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    Another Johnny come lately with reading comprehension problems.
     
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    The owner of the land is exercising their right to take it back and the criminals who've laid illegal claim to it are refusing.

    Shoot them.

    Isn't that the preferred right wing response?

    :D
     
  6. EggKiller

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    In our country the top guy is responsible for governing. In your country the top royalty are responsible for,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,keeping the tabloids filled with stories the commoners lap up like dogs?
     
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    Seeing as the present administration, the BLM and Reid who is pulling the strings are all leftists one must wonder what terrible accident your common sense was involved in to leave it such a mangled mess.
     
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    The evidence of federal illegal atrocities buried in mass graves is being unearthed today.

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  10. TomFitz

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    What might those be. The statute give the Secretary discretion.

    There is nothing in the article that says whether or not he chose to use it, although the headline implies he didn't. But inplying and stating as fact are two different things. When right wing media wants to conflate something, implying the lie in the headline, while not actually saying so in the text is a frequent ploy.
     
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    That rather suggests you'd be just fine had the circumstances been a right wing administration reclaiming federal land illegally used by, say, a left wing hippy commune.

    The law only applies when it suits your partisanship?

    If you're going to make a personal attack then at least make it amusing. As is it's neither funny nor does it achieve anything other than reflect poorly on your abilities and general attitude.

    Or, to put it more succinctly, it makes you look like a dick.
     
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    If you look at one of the videos, the protestors comment that it is LVMPD that is there in addition to the endless news stories that reference it because the protestors made threats. Anyway.
     
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    I think Obama and other's in his administration are naive enough to think so.
     
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    This post is disgusting

    you have no point to make and/or it is lost in childish ad hominem

    My bet is you are about 20 yrs old or thereabouts




    :roll:
     
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    Bo_4 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    So, Steve Stockman didn't say that and his pal Ted didn't admit that he pooped his pants to get out of the draft?

    Guess you're in denial. ;~)
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He's not the only one..................


    I find it hysterical that liberals would question Nugent's draft status, yet support their draft dodger Vice President. He was a Life Guard and Football player in high school, yet his asthma was bad enough to keep him out of Vietnam. Running plays on the gridiron...OK. Swimming furiously to save a drowning swimmer....OK. Running in boot camp in the Army...out of the question. LOLOLOL! :roflol:
     
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    What does your link or Bundy's attitude have to do with the BLM using police powers that they are not allowed to use?

    I guess we would have a case like the New Black Panthers intimidating voters at a polling place and Holder refused to act for political reasons. BH Obama refusing to deport criminal illegals for political reasons. BHO getting ready to commute thousands of drug dealers for political reasons who may have been directly responsible for deaths caused my meth and other hard drugs. That last one is a political gift to the dem base of criminal apologists who are 80% Black and totally stupid.

    So you missed this?? “When the Secretary determines that assistance is necessary in enforcing Federal laws and regulations relating to the public lands or their resources he shall offer a contract to appropriate local officials having law enforcement authority within their respective jurisdictions with the view of achieving maximum feasible reliance upon local law enforcement officials in enforcing such laws and regulations.” I didn't see " discretion " in there. You may think that all federal officials have the discretion to do as they want but the Laws say otherwise.

    The BLM is not and should act as a law enforcement agency. I guess we are seeing why every BH Obama government agency ordered thousands and thousands of rounds of 9mm ammo.
     
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    INDEED!!

    Where do the gov'ment bureaucrats derive this broad scope of powers?

    Then, to a larger question; what the hell are these bureaucratic agencies doing with para-military units?
     
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    This whole thread is very mis leading fom the title to the letter that the OP has shown as proof There has been no legal challenge. Obama and the BLM to date have not been found in violation of anything. This is a very suspect opinion by a congress man passed on as fact by a news agancy, and by the OP. Knowing full well this is a bogus claim. This is not breaking news this is a very suspect opinion by the OP and should be moved to the proper sub section. This opinion should be at the very least be put in the Political Opinions and Beliefs, if not in the conspiracy section. The OP instance on putting this in the breaking news section violates PF rules.

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  20. Alwayssa

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    You are getting confused. The BLM is a regulatory agency. Its responsibilities is to land management of federal land. That being the case, and when interacting with civilians, it has an investigative enforcement arm like all regulatory agencies. And it was enforcing a permanent injunction on Clivel Bundy for violating the BLM regulations. The permanent injunction came from a federal court decision in 2012 by a judge that was nominated by Ronald Regan. And sicne Mr. Bundy was violating the court's inunction, the BLM had no choice if you want the rule of law to be enforced.

    Furthermore, the Secretary does have the discretion to cooperate with local law enforcement. But unfortunately, the local sheriffs out west want to be more political, than police officers, unfortunately. And that does not help with a history of non trust between federal and local law enforcement and the turf wars that go along with it. So, it is understandable for BLM not to use local law enforcement. If they did, it would have been much worse and similar to Waco, 1994.

    As for the NBP, simply standing there was not a sign of intimidation nor is it with True to Vote people standing in front of a polling booth. There has to be something more, something substantial and affirmative action taken for there to be intimidation, such as letters by the True to Vote to predominately minority voters to question their citizenship. And there has not been for the NBP members who have been accused.
     
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    Para military?> LOL

    The regulatory enforcement arm of the BLM is para military?

    You need to think that Hollywood movies are documentaries.
     
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    BLM did not break the law and you are not reading the specific law that you citied properly. BLM has the discretion of making an offer to local law enforcement for help, but that does not mean said offer has to be initiated all the time, most of the time, or some of the time. It simply means an option given to the Secretary of the DOL and that is all. It has to be there so that it gives the federal government flexibility to perform its job adequately, with or without local law enforcement.
     
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    So it is your opinion that all regulatory agencies should enforce the regulations that they write? The BLM doesn't need an enforcement arm. We already have the FBI to enforce federal laws and they have no authorization from the Congress to enforce their regulations at the point of a gun.

    What evidence do you have that the local law was asked and refused to enforce the BLM regulations?

    You think that the local law would have shot people but you just said that they would have refused to do this dirty work for the BLM. You must know that it was not the local law that attacked and killed the people near Waco. It was the AFT that caused the fire at the compound.

    The video tapes of the NBP thugs shows them with clubs and making intimidating gestures with the clubs.

    A man with a club is more intimidating than a letter.

    Liberals argue that if a man forces himself into the front door you should run out the back door and not shot the thug but in this case they want people shot for unauthorized grazing on land that Harry Reid wants for his friend to build more useless green projects.
     
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    You have a source for True to Vote standing in front of a polling booth?
     
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    If they wish to travel that road by all means get out of the ditch and let em start steering.
     

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