Obama continuing Bush's policies of disinformation?

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  1. Stndown

    Stndown Banned

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    I guess the disinformation campaign is in full swing now with Obama following Bush's lead by injecting 'disruption specialists' into web chats and social forums? I'd like to highlight an excerpt from the link here:
    http://www.infowars.com/the-plan-to-kill-the-internet-uncovered/


    Intelligence Agencies are Manipulating the Internet With Deliberate Disinformation

    Documents recently released by whistleblower Edward Snowden confirm that western intelligence agencies are deliberately flooding the web with disinformation in order to, “inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets.”

    These techniques are intended to “control, infiltrate, manipulate, and warp online discourse,” which has the effect of, “compromising the integrity of the internet itself,” according to journalist Glenn Greenwald.

    3) Governments are Paying Trolls to Sway Public Opinion

    In 2010, Canada’s CTV News reported on how federal authorities were paying companies to “correct misinformation” on web forums.

    The Turkish, Israeli and Chinese governments along with a host of others have also implemented similar programs, while the U.S. Air Force hired data security firm HBGary to create large numbers of fake social media profiles that could be used to spread propaganda while countering anti-U.S. rhetoric online. Raw Story reported that the obvious function of the program was to “manipulate public opinion on key information, such as news reports,” thereby creating, “the illusion of consensus.”

    4) Mainstream News Websites are Killing Comment Sections

    Although this remains a relatively rare phenomenon, increasing numbers of mainstream news websites are killing or severely restricting comment sections in order to drown out dissident voices that challenge the prevailing status quo.

    Studies confirm that article comment sections – for better or worse – are heavily swaying public opinion. Popular Science recently announced its decision to kill comment sections on their website in order to silence global warming skeptics. BoingBoing.net is following a similar track. The New York Times also recently indicated that it is scaling back comments and removing them from some articles altogether.

    The effort to kill comments is part of the establishment media’s desperate effort to dictate reality and maintain a grip on manufacturing consensus in the face of a burgeoning independent media and the Internet as a vehicle of free speech in general.

    5) The Obama Administration’s “Cognitive Infiltration” of the Internet

    In 2010, a White House program was revealed that centered around infiltrating conspiracy groups in order to undermine them via postings on chat rooms and social networks. Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, Obama’s appointee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, spearheaded this “cognitive infiltration” of the web and has been heralding its success ever since.

    Sunstein pointed out that simply having people in government refute conspiracy theories wouldn’t work because they are inherently untrustworthy, making it necessary to, “Enlist nongovernmental officials in the effort to rebut the theories.”

    Sunstein suggested that “government agents (and their allies) might enter chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine percolating conspiracy theories by raising doubts about their factual premises, causal logic or implications for political action.”




    If this is indeed going on, how does anyone cut through the nonsense and make any sense out of the facts (or is this too, intentional)? Is this all created in order to keep an issue clouded in confusion, create doubt and generally keep truth off balance? Comments, please.
     
  2. LoneStrSt8

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    Damn...You've found me out...
     
  3. Stndown

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    Not much of a shocker though.
     
  4. Hannibal

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    Everything is a conspiracy, and everybody is in on it.
    That about sum up your stance, Boss?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Truthers,Apparently,have NO sense of humor
     
  6. Jango

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    Online persona management, people hired to defend something or give a favorable review (shills) and whatever else it goes by today is not a conspiracy theory.

    After all, cyberspace is the new domain of Warfare. Propaganda & disinformation are staples of Warfare.
     
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    Who exactly are we at war with on this message board?
     
  8. Stndown

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    Quite true. The disinformation has been in place for decades. It was also boldly restated (boldly) by the administration at the time, to redouble that effort.
     
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    That depends on what you mean by 'we'.
     
  11. Stndown

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    I don't know whether or not I buy that such a thing hasn't already been in place already but, that deals primarily the CNN's and the like (the so-called 'mainstream' outlets). Bush openly discussed this 'active campaign' immediately after 9/11). I guess they've given the full green light to doing it more outwardly and even more openly now. That's rather sad.
     
  12. Jango

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    Of course it was happening beforehand (Iraq War Pentagon analysts) but it is now completely out in the open.
     
  13. Stndown

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    Yes, full speed ahead on the nonsense and further burying of any hints of actual truth. Like I say, that's pretty sad.
     
  14. Jango

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    Yeah, without question.

    It will only get worse.
     
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    First, none of this surprises me. Second, it's not all that effective. Have you ever been swayed from your fundamental opinions or beliefs by anything anyone's ever posted on the Internet? Or instead have you adapted ideas and notions that logically fit into what you already KNOW to be more or less correct? Besides which most staid and button-down government employees wouldn't stand a chance going nose to nose with some of our posting regulars. You've got to want to post and kick ideas or even conspiracy theories around. It comes as much from the heart as from the head.
     
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    Thank U
    ever so much, really
    this has been a war for hearts & minds
    and if all you can get is mind, without heart
    you have lost.

    its a crazy world!
     
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    There will always be those who doubt.
     

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