Of the arguments brought up in the Colorado case, there is one I like...

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Then, let the people have the option to vote against him. Stop playing these chicken **** games.
     
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    It sounded like the Supremes weigh heavily in his favor. In any case we will be the ones that suffer the aftermath if this sort of fascist practice becomes precedence..

    If anything it will greatly interrupt and elevate the reasons a candidates will not qualify! Smear tactics, intense scrutiny and classic fabrications will make the election process impossible or at the very least limited and arduous!

    Where will the lines be drawn :)
     
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  3. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    From my POV, I'm good either way.

    1. SCOTUS rules against the Left's interpretation of the 14th Amendment and we get to see them lose their marbles.

    2. SCOTUS rules in favor and we get to see just what a charlie foxtrot this becomes, with states making up reasons all willy-nilly to DQ a Federal candidate. Over half the states have legislatures that are Republican heavy enough to pass constitutional carry. If those 26 states booted the Democrat candidate from the ballot, it would almost guarantee a Republican presidential victory.
     
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    Yup, one thing the DNC is good at and that's ANARCHY..
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I didn't say I agree. I said I like it. Colorado would lose the case 6-3 or 5-4 no matter what. With this argument they might lose 9-0, but it's the reasoning that does the least damage.
     
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    I could not agree more.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course it didn't! We all knew from the beginning that lavish vacations, yacht trips and free Winnebagos trump COTUS But this reasoning at least sets a positive precedent.
     
  8. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    I think the overall plan is to create so much chaos in the election that it goes to the House.
     
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    One second. I didn't say I agree. I said I like it. Colorado losing 5-4, 6-3 or 9-0 makes little difference. But Gorsuch had already ruled once that states could approve or reject candidates at a state's discretion for ANY reason. If he votes in favor of this for the reason I gave, that interpretation is off the table.

    The Roberts Supreme Court will go down in history as one of the worst. It is sad that we had to suffer the creep's obsession for legislating from the bench.
     
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    Only because you all aren't getting your way...lol
     
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    I understand how you rationalize things relating to the right. The bigger question is how will you excuse away the leftist judges who strike this down?
     
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    You omitted the fact that section three only deals with insurrection , not other shady aspects
     
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    Even Justice Jackson seems to find the case troubling and Kagan does as well. Right now it looks as I said much earlier that the case is going down at least 8-1
     
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    Which means nothing in terms of this case which at the moment appears as I told you a month ago to be an 8-1 loser.
     
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    Trump's lawyer was so lousy that Justice Jackson and Justice Kagan had to tell him how to make his case. Basically they told him "stop all this nonsense! What you need to argue is..." and then proceeded to feed him the argument I describe in the OP.

    I have a feeling that is going to be the argument. And it's a good argument because it takes power away from the states and starts to give it to the federal government, which is where ALL election law should be administered
     
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    With all due respect neither legal team exactly covered themselves with Glory. Both came across as 1st year legal students who had prepared for the wrong case in moot court and that from Dershowitz and Turley wasn't impressed either. And no that takes power from the states and returns it to the people with whom the power should ultimately reside. But nice of you to admit that the left really cares nothing for the people.
     
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    Several of the judges questioned the rights of states to make decisions on national elections. They also questioned the due process of Colorado's decisions. That plus allowing a few state officials to overturn a national election pretty seals the fate of this decision. The vote will likely be 9-0 against Colorado.
     
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    Consequences, the last word in stupidity. I'm sure DQing a person for something they are not convicted of will NEVER EVER happen again if this precedence is set ;)

    I have faith the Supremes are somewhat more realistic than the average hate driven and short sighted laymen..
     
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    That's how dog and pony shows go.. All the excitement is anticipation. Once under the tent it just horseshit and clowns..
     
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    Actually the attorney for Colorado was VERY good. He gave Roberts a lesson on how a Supreme Court SHOULD behave. It was kinda funny Roberts asking (basically) "Are you expecting US to decide if a state files a frivolous lawsuit for insurrection against a President elect?" His answer was a very diplomatic: "Yeah! That's kinda your job!" and then explaining that if they DON'T want to see frivolous lawsuits all the time, just define "insurrection" in a narrow way to make it easy for lower courts to dismiss those cases.

    Roberts is such a dimwit!
     
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    Really? Roberts is such a dimwit?

    You failed to understand what Roberts was expecting. He was expect the Colorado attorney to explain his position. But rather than explaining, which he likely would not have been able to, he made a wise ass remark.
     
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    And that wise ass remark demonstrated to anybody who cared to listen that Roberts is a dimwit.

    The Colorado attorney KNEW from the beginning that he's going to lose this case. He knows this is a MAGA court. They wouldn't dare oppose Trump and risk losing all those yacht trips, lavish vacations, paid tuitions for their descendants and free Winnebagos But he made his case and very skillfully rejected the attempts to deflect to him responsibilities that belong to the Supreme Court
     
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    Now there is a demonstration of you legal acumen and a complete failure to understand what's in play. Getting snarky when you just been told politely your entire premise is BS never works.
     
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    What's at play are Winnebagos, yacht parties, lavish vacations and tuition costs for some of the justices kids. They're not going to give that up, so the HONEST justices might just as well provide a rationale that does not send the nation spiraling further down the hole that the bribed justices have dug.
     

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