Ok. So let's address this Trump/Biden documnts nonsense

Is theft of classified documents not evidence in your mind? Is failing to comply with a subpoena random?

 

Oh he was there? I didn't know that. I hope you got something to keep you occupied for the long wait
good stuff!
Please keep entertaining us

 

Looks to me like you changed your narrative.

 

Stick around, kid. There are MANY things you'll learn here that you didn't know.

 

Exonerates him? Get real. He himself and the Whitehouse referenced the residence where the documents were found as private and recently decided to change that wording because of this law I am sure. This doesn’t exonerate him at all.

 

Yes! YOUR link exonerates him.

This is why you threw in a link but DIDN'T quote it.

 

Still making stuff up. Where did I say it was not illegal?

 

Back to the either side of your two-headed coin.

Must be a millennial. The whole generation pretty much has the same problem.

 

Oh, ABC said it, then it must be true. Do you people EVER think for yourselves?

There's already evidence of a crime: the actual classified documents in Biden's possession...lmao

 

Was the subpoena legal?

 

No, I threw in the link cause It’s as good as a quote. You can still read it can’t you. And I don’t need to follow your childish demands to a T. And no it doesn’t exonerate him at all

 

LOL, I'll take this poor attempt at a "shoot the messenger attack" as I sign you concede my points. And your "yeah, but Trump. . ." is vapid and inaccurate. Trump's actions have no bearing on Biden's infractions. Nice try.

 

The subpoena was legal because it was signed by a judge.

To the warrant:

They apparently had a witness that corroborated the information from the National Archives and the result was those documents were located where they believed them to be.

Are you attempting to argue this subpoena was invalid? If you are under what grounds?

 

If he "stole" them why hasn't he been charged with theft? He doesn't deny he took them. Yet, no charges. Odd. You may want to rethink your conclusion.

 

That doesn't make it legal...lol.

Judges are infallible, nor are they above the law.

What were the grounds given to obtain the subpoena?

 

Here are the requirements:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_45

Which one are you contesting?

 

It sounds like you are imagining a scenario whereby Joe stuffed some classified docs in his briefcase and left the WH with them. Leaving some at his office and some at his home. I suppose that's possible, but we don't know if that's what happened.
Do you think alternate scenarios are possible? Like he had members of his staff put together some briefing material and transport them to the aforementioned locations. Or that he himself transported the docs but was unaware he had them?
What I'm saying is there is no point, outside of the political angle, of speculating about what happened. And I think it's a mistake to draw conclusions based on incomplete info. Let the process work.

 

It may very well be a matter that ascends to the SCOTUS only because Trump was a president, and the prerogatives and powers of a president, per se, may have to be revisited regarding classified documents... or, maybe not!

Well, I'm not a lawyer, but we were always told, and told again, that mishandling classified information in any way was just short of murder, as far as prosecution goes. Theft of such documents would certainly be no laughing matter, either.

I've heard this 'intent' thing ever since former FBI Direct Comey used it as justification to let Hillary off the hook back in 2016.

Questions: Did Donald Trump intend to keep the classified documents? Obviously, he did, and he contends that it was his prerogative to do so (TBD by the SCOTUS, as I suggested earlier).
Did Joe Biden intend to keep the classified documents that have been found in his possession? Well, obviously, he did, too -- otherwise why would they still be in his possession after all these years?
Did Hillary Clinton intend to break classified information laws on her private computer? Definitely -- and, in fact, not only did she have the classified information on her private server in the New York Clinton mansion, she also generated no less than 104 email documents from that same server/computer which contained classified information!

Links:
https://nypost.com/2016/03/07/hillary-clinton-wrote-104-classified-emails-herself/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e2ee06-dbd6-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html

James Comey had already renounced his membership in the Republican Party at the time in July 2016 when he made his infamous determination that Hillary Clinton had done nothing to warrant prosecution for breaking national security and classified information laws. Comey's 'sidekick' in this farce was Obama's Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, who was quite ready to go along with Comey's 'finding', and so the whole thing just 'went away'....

But I'll agree that Republicans make lousy investigators/prosecutors! Both Sen. Trey Gowdy and Rep. Darrell Issa had Hillary Clinton right "in the crosshairs", but through bungling and mishandling let her escape any repercussions from her own unforgivable malfeasance in the Benghazi tragedy.

 

Are we back on another one of these “they were not charged so it didn’t happen” which will move to “they were charged but it’s fraudulent and will not be convicted” and then to “they were convicted but the courts are illegitimate” like y’all did with the sedition charges for the J6 criminals?

What do you call taking something that doesn’t belong to you and then refusing to return it when asked?

 

Nope! Not even close. You omitted the quote because that would show you EXONERATING Biden.

Good job, though. You did manage to solve the case.

 

That's what this thread is about. Doesn't surprise me that you hadn't noticed.

 

Not at all. Biden is guilty of that law period

 

Documents Inquiry Puts Spotlight on Biden’s Frenetic Last Days as Vice President

How much Mr. Biden was involved in the disposition of documents in the days leading up to his 2017 departure from the White House is not clear. He had a hectic schedule as he tried to squeeze in as much activity as possible.

Within the final week or so, he was surprised with the Presidential Medal of Freedom by Mr. Obama. He spoke by phone with leaders from Iraq, Kosovo and Japan. And he embarked on a last overseas journey, first to Kyiv, Ukraine, where he met with Petro Poroshenko, the president, and from there to Davos, Switzerland, for the annual meeting of business and political titans, where he met with leaders of Serbia and the Kurdistan region of Iraq.

All the while, papers back in Washington were being sorted and packed. The hours were short, the unbreakable deadline approaching. On that last day, Mr. Biden attended Mr. Trump’s inauguration, then headed to Union Station for a train trip back to Delaware. And boxes of documents were shipped to their destinations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/14/us/politics/biden-vice-president-documents-investigation.html

It's possible that staff members boxed up documents, some of which were classified, from Joe's office in the WH and had them sent to his think tank office and home........isn't it? We don't know.

 

You just plain do not know that yet.

 

Glad to see that you are as anxious as all Americans who believe in the rule of law are. Because, just between you and me, I think there are folks out there who hope he doesn't have to pay for his crimes. Yeah! Creepy! I know!