Oklahoma transgender student dies after allegedly assaulted by students at school

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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're desperately trying to make this about me, and then sliding in your snide comments in responses to avoid the topic and the point.

    My original point stands, leave it or debate it, doesn't matter to me.

    A contingent of people have jumped on this bandwagon that this young child passed away as a result of an assault because they were trans. None if that has been proven.

    But they need it to make the argument and rally for their agenda... so facts don't matter.

    When the autopsy is realized, there is a probability many people are going to look silly.
     
  2. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why have separate bathrooms at all then?

    Since gender is just a feeling, and people can use any restroom, locker room, or shower they want.... let's just have one for everybody. Right?
     
  3. Space_Time

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    Is it the result of bullying:
     
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    She wasn't beaten to death. And, yes, trans people should be safe from violent thugs. I'm sorry you disagree, and I'm sorry for whoever hurt you enough to apparently find some kind of entertainment in this violence.
    Just remember, kids: if a bully beats you, it means you deserve it. Subscribe for more lessons from @Steven N
     
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    Sorry but Nex threw water on the girls and shoved one into a paper towel dispenser. She/he was the aggressor in the situation. There is no way you can spin this to make me think that he/she wasn't the bully in this exchange.
     
  6. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Color me not surprised that all the posters in this thread who assumed this trans kid was beat to death to push their agenda ignored this;

    https://www.koco.com/article/nex-benedict-autopsy-death-oklahoma/60191680

    I feel sorry for the kid, truly didn't recieve the help needed.

    I am disgusted by those who jumped to conclusions to create a victim and make accusations of conservatives beating this kid to death. Disgusting.
     
  7. Pro_Line_FL

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    Well, since she killed herself a day after the fight, and had a long history of being a bully victim, its safe to assume that is had everything to do with it.

    When you choose to become "non-binary", you choose to become an abnormality and potential victim of bullies.
     
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    Then perhaps the entire MSM should not be pushing it onto children. Millions of years of human existence and 15 minutes ago, the elite decide it is a great idea to make children think they are actually the other sex. The obscenity of this is more than matched by the brutality. They are inviting to children to hack of their genitals, to lose the ability to orgasm, to lose the ability to have children of their own, to have lifelong painful and expensive medical problems, and to have a chance of suicide close to 50%..... for what? Hopefully the day will come that the people responsible for pushing this narrative are brought to justice and face legal and civil consequences for their actions.

    Side note, check the record on this thread. The second that I heard that the death happened the next day, I speculated that it was suicide. It was rather obvious call given the 40% suicide attempt rate for trans people.

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  9. jcarlilesiu

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    You don't think mental health of the victim and others who align with this gender agenda should be questioned?
     
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    When you suffer from extreme mental illness you’re bound to do a lot of irrational things, like STARTING A FIGHT, then killing yourself the next day to be a martyr.

    It’s not like it’s a rare occurrence. Bullying is very wrong. I was bullied growing up. Never wanted to kill myself though.

    The biggest issue here is the LIE!!! The MSM openly lying and distorting the story to create chaos. THATs a far bigger issue than this mentally disturbed individual suicide, because the social ramifications are far bigger. It must stop. The lies. The need for the MSM to distort realty. You have to believe it’s far more devious destroying the culture from within to bring the country down.
     
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  11. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is what happens when we teach our children to hate.

    Not surprising with how red states are acting about the trans issue

    shamed the parents and not the completely shitty kids who did this or the school not calling an ambulance right away.

    They’d also be alive if republicans didn’t express such open hatter for people just for being different.

    ...rather than an opportunity to reflect on the sort of hatred that likely brought this about.

    Then the mommys and daddys of the girls won't be surprised if/when their little darlings are charged with negligent homocide

    WTF does science or picket lines have to do with these girls beating a classmate to death?

    Are you no longer arguing that people with views not supported by science deserve to beaten to death?

    Only if the feds bring charges, won’t see hate crime charges in Oklahoma for this one,

    Owasso Oklahoma: 72% white, 4% black. Strong right wing

    Yes, just assume that the culprits are black and it was the victim's and the parent's fault anyway in one of the most Red states in the US

    Doesn’t help that this also isn’t the first time forum members have shown anti-trans sentiments here.

    How exactly is kids beating another to death complicated?

    You know what’s actually wrong? Beating kids to death over that but you don’t seem to be making any effort to condemn them for some reason.

    None of which is a good reason to beat a teenager to death.

    Hating on one of the smallest & least powerful groups in society serves some purpose for them.

    The amount of anti-trans **** I see on this forum comes from multiple people

    I had no idea that there were kids in Oklahoma that didn't like the LGBTQ. Maybe there are some of them are born again Christians

    These are all emotional comments made by our house lefties before having all the facts. They blame conservatives, Trump, whites, Christians...

    Literally using the young woman's death to perpetuate a false narrative to create a victim class that allows them to continue their agenda to address societal problems that they created... and when the facts come out, they never return.

    No wonder Jesse Smolitt felt so empowered to do the same.

    Maybe, just maybe, all the constant attempts to find blame rationalizing your social justice motives is on YOU.
     
  12. Joe knows

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    No, it’s safe to assume that she was never given the proper mental help. The kids didn’t kill her, she killed herself and it was 100% her decision. She obviously had mental issues that were never addressed and likely overlooked for her social status as a trany.
     
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    The bulling, and the beating triggered that decision. Obviously.
     
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    Not obvious to me.

    Trans kids suicide regularly.
     
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    I don’t much care what triggered that decision. I’m sure the thought crossed her mind even prior to this situation. What the end scenario was produced by is a her mind and was obviously in need of mental help that was overlooked for her social status.
     
  16. jcarlilesiu

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    You don't know that.

    You don't know who started the altercation.

    You don't know the mental health condition of this kid.

    All you know is You want to use her suicide to push your agenda. That's it.
     
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    Not obviously. If he was never a Trans kid, and just gay, maybe the suicidal tendencies wouldn’t have been there. Millions get bullied and do NOT commit suicide.
     
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    You guys can always stop being shitty people and stop bullying trans people like they don’t have enough to worry about.
     
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    The mental condition of bully victims is always poor.

    You think it was a co-incidence she committed suicide a day after the latest incident?

    What agenda might that be?

    Being non-binary invited the bullying. What's your point? I think lot of kids like her end up being bully victims, and they should think about it before becoming what they are. Most of them probably think they made a mistake, although in this case it would have been easy to go back to being normal.
     
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  20. jcarlilesiu

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    Again.

    You don't know that happened.

    See, here is the game. You all made assumptions here to push that narrative... which wasn't factual. But keep saying these things ad nausea, and that allows you to keep pushing your agenda. Even when your wrong. Even when smolitt pushes the narrative falsely, even when Democrats keep telling you this is the case for power and control.

    You were one of the worst offenders in thus thread, but you just can't bring yourself to admit it.
     
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    Maybe. Maybe not.

    Maybe she was bullied, maybe she wasnt. You dont know.

    Do you have any proof it stemmed from the incident?

    Simple. Creating a victim class to push your political narrative.

    How do you know that?

    I don't think anybody wants anybody to be "normal", but when people are abnormal, sometimes it's a cry for attention.
     
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    But here’s the thing: even though we did get the big story incorrect, folks are still being anti-trans regardless of the story, some of them have done this in other threads previously. And I see you referenced my comments at least three times. Hence, my last comment.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People being opposed to the trans-activism is not inherently hate.

    Trans people have been around a long long time... you should ask yourself why NOW it has become a hot button issue.
     
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    Being described as "filth" is not hate?
     
  25. jcarlilesiu

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    Only for super sensitive people.

    I've been called gar worse than filthy, and I'm certain those people didn't hate me.

    The fact is, the woke left decided that we must all bow to their demands for "equality", and then play the victim when people don't fall in line. Are you really surprised rattling the cage results in a few bites?

    This idea that the woke left has some grand utopian dream for society that we must all accept and adhere to is the problem, in this case transgenderism, preferred pronouns, trans education, biological denial, social normalcy and decency... THATS what caused all this non-sense.
     
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