On trans-sexuals and their "right" to use the opposite sex' bathroom

But of course. The Left invented racial identity politics. The alt-right is just an extension of identity politics to white people.

Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind.

 

INCIDENT 1: http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/june/woman-sexually-violated-in-target-bathroom

INCIDENT 2: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/15/us/target-transgender-idaho-voyeurism.html

INCIDENT 3: https://www.local10.com/news/crime/...f-teen-changing-at-target-in-davie-police-say

That's my point. Its not specific to locker rooms and for some reason, you narrowed it down even further when you said SCHOOL locker rooms.

Sure, but if everything else was addressed, would the issue still be hidden if they were not allowed to use the bathroom of their choice?

 

the reality you refuse to acknowledge is we aren't trying to keep true transgender out of women's bathrooms we are trying to keep sexual predators and pedophiles out
And what you and your cohorts are doing is inviting them to come on in hang out in women's bathrooms changing rooms and locker rooms all you have to do is claim your transgender

 

guarantee you you've peed next to trans people without ever knowing it.

 

It's a reason restrooms need to remain gender neutral, if business owners are unable to make proper renovations.

 

No, they don't. Woman and girls should have access to safe and secure changing/bathroom facilities, free from unwanted observation. Men demanding that they have access to such places, with no regard for how that will impact women and girls, is deeply misogynistic.

 

The solution is so simple, yet you seem to find a way around it by claiming its misogynistic.

Luckily, for big box retailers, they have family restrooms that are essentially gender neutral. If all businesses followed what Target and Walmart do, this wouldn't be an issue.

 

That solution is not at all simple, for women and girls who want and need to feel safe in changing rooms etc.

A tiny percentage of men don't want their feelings hurt, so the welfare of the majority of women and girls be damned. So very typical of the regressive and oppressive male.

 

So now this is spun into a issue of women's rights? Fitting rooms are gender neutral, and in many cases, big box retailers have a key designated to fitting rooms so only one person at a time is in there. You don't hear horror stories going on in the "Family Restrooms" Target has, and again they are gender neutral. If mom-and-pop businesses can't make that accommodation financially, then just say it.

 

Not entirely true, I mean some of us aren't quite THAT liberal! I don't see too much of a problem with a TRUE transgender woman using a the ladies room if they are someone who has undergone the transformation to the absolute FULLEST degree, with close to biologically female levels of testosterone. The problem is, how the hell do we distinguish who these particular ones are and who are the predators and pedophiles?

 

It's a women AND girls SAFETY issue, not a rights issue. Women and girls, when at their most vulnerable, should not be forced to accommodate male strangers, just because a tiny number of same have delusions and massive egos.

Any male who champions the incursion of men into spaces needed and used by vulnerable women and girls, is a chauvinist, sorry.

 

Yeah, but being a woman, she will be peeing in separate cubicles. Apart from some toilets which are undivided which I've heard about!

 

I've never actually asked anyone this. How in the HELL are gender neutral bathrooms any different to allowing people to use the bathroom of the gender which they identify with? Its still men sharing a space with women and men sharing a space with children! I do not get it!

And what if they are not? Renovations aren't cheap you know.

 

The same could be argued about businesses, like gas stations, that only have one restroom that is gender neutral. I understand your viewpoint, but it doesn't nullify the simple solution of a gender-neutral restroom.

 

This, exactly.

 

A scattering of otherwise unavoidable gender neutral restrooms (gas stations etc) is one thing, actively encouraging them where they don't exist now, is quite another.

 

It is the same thing. A restroom is a restroom.

 

Its nothing different than encouraging food businesses to have free refills for their drinks. You either install a new restroom, one cubicle and one urinal, or remove the gender designation altogether. There are locks on stalls, you know.

 

No, YOU don't hear horror stories. Some of us do though. These ALL happened at Target, all after the dangerous policy was introduced.

INCIDENT 1: http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/june/woman-sexually-violated-in-target-bathroom

INCIDENT 2: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/15/us/target-transgender-idaho-voyeurism.html

INCIDENT 3: https://www.local10.com/news/crime/...f-teen-changing-at-target-in-davie-police-say

 

Once again, women and girls at their most vulnerable. Your 12 year old daughter. Your 20 year old sister. Your mother. etc etc.

 

Let me get this straight. Are you advocating for the removal of the male/female toilet structure and replacing it with just gender neutral bathrooms? Or simply adding gender neutral to male/female?

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=man...0j69i57j0l4.4884j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Here's a plethora of videotaping of girls/women in dressing rooms. And they're not transgender or in neutral dressing rooms.
FAIL.
Well you got 3 out of 10,000. Or at least a plethora of video tapping accusations.

 

Both, but the former for businesses that can't afford a third installment.

 

Oh I see, so I guess those 3 are acceptable to you then, just because they are in the minority? Well OF COURSE they're in the minority! Transgenders are in the minority! These three incidents happened over the 3 months after the policy was introduced!

 

Correct! Most are MEN who are taking full advantage of the ludicrous policies by identifying as a woman and going into the women's dressing rooms! To use your language - "FAIL!"