On trans-sexuals and their "right" to use the opposite sex' bathroom

Hello. I just want to say that as a woman, I feel extremely uncomfortable sharing the bathroom with someone who has a penis. The prevailing medical "experts" might tell me/us that these people are "women" but I quietly disagree. They keep talking about trans-sexuals' right to use the "appropriate" bathroom but they keep ignoring us, the normal people. What if WE feel uncomfortable? But of course they ignore us. They think that trans-sexuals' right is more important than that of ours.

Another thing I want to bring up: what if there is a biological male who now considers himself woman, and wants to play in the WNBA? Or a biological male claiming to be female getting access to government set-asides designed for females? These wouldn't be right.

Your thoughts?

 

Me too

 

You are a man though, aren't you?

 

Sorry, my little joke fell flat.
O god please make me funny (sniffle)..

 

What harm is caused to you by the mere presence of a transsexual using the same bathroom as you?

What makes your rights more important than theirs?

Something for the WNBA to figure out.

Such as?

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What harm is caused to you by the mere presence of a transsexual using the same bathroom as you?

 

Maybe your right to feel 'comfortable' is not as controlling on courts as you think it ought to be. I know I don't care if you feel comfortable when I as a male, kiss another man in your presence. I know I don't care if you are uncomfortable with black men dating or marrying white women. I know I don't care if you are uncomfortable with a mosque in your neighborhood.

Lots of folks think that your discomfort should be your problem and you should not visit your prejudices on anyone else including transgender people, who just want to use the restroom and wsh their hands.

 

Then they can either: Use the men's bathroom(since they are biologically male even if they identify as female) or we could get to creating that third bathroom, since it is a gender that is not identifiable as purely male or female.

 

You left out a bathroom. They can use the bathroom of the gender they identify with and that a physician of record so notes in a medical record, and those that don't like it can suck it up and deal with it. That's what worked best when these same busy-bodies decided they were 'uncomfortable' with same sex marriage, and it worked well when some servicemen were 'uncomfortable' sharing quarters with black men and some other men were 'uncomfortable' with women bossing them around.

 

Do you think you struck a chord? The use of a public bathroom is not even remotely in the realm of civil rights. Since there's no difference from the girl's bathroom and the boy's bathroom outside of the users of said bathroom. And that right there, happens to be the conflict.

And it's not like transgenders cannot use male bathrooms. Unless this Administration would like to show me such a case(since there isn't a so-proclaimed civil rights case they didn't try). No, the idea is that we can't have what would be psuedo-males sharing the same space as a female. It defeats the purpose of calling it the women's bathroom or am I the only one trying to hold onto sanity here.

 

Nobody cared a decade ago. No one even really knew if someone who was a transgendered person used the wrong bathroom.

So I ask: why let pundits and demagogues rule your emotional state with illogical nonsense?

It wasn't a problem 10 years ago, and it isn't now.

 

Good grief.

This is hilariously epic and ridiculous.

No, just no. No one had a problem with this 10, 15, 20 years ago. No one.

 

Yea, why don't you say that to parents with young children and they'll let you how ridiculous it is.

Further proof that leftist liberals such as Hillary Clinton truly care more about their adult pervert friends than the children of society.

Just like the convicted rapist, Hillary helped out who raped a 12 year old girl, and Hillary laughed about it...perhaps you find that ridiculous as well.

 

You just don't get it, not worth it. It's clear you're too worried about blasting anyone you politically disagree with then finding common ground.

You're part of the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing problem.

 

don't you understand word uncomfortable?
Your policies impose irreparable psychological damage.

 

What if as a man I feel uncomfortable sharing the bathroom with someone who self-identifies as female? What if other women feel uncomfortable sharing bathrooms with genetic females who identify as male? What if they feel uncomfortable sharing a bathroom with you? There can be and inevitably is discomfort whatever the outcome of this question and in the status quo that previously existed and that you’d apparently like to return to. You can’t reach a legitimate conclusion on this basis.

Not quite but whether you (or I) agree with that or not is irrelevant anyway. Otherwise I could simply dismiss your entire post by disagreeing with the medical experts who say women are capable of logical decisions.

No more than you’re ignoring them and think your rights are more important than theirs. Plenty of transgender people are actually concerned about the discomfort and rights of other people (if only because making people uncomfortable can put them in danger) and there isn’t a consistent opinion among transgender people as to what the right (or least worst) answer to this question is. It’s almost as if they’re “normal people” isn’t it?

Largely separate questions I’d say. This is complex and difficult enough without piling more confusions and distraction in to the mix.

 

An attempt to compare genetic trait with human behavior is a manifestation of either poor education or insanity.

 

There doesn't need to be any "direct harm". Just the fact they have a penis and want to use the same bathroom as me makes me uncomfortable. Besides, sometimes it's hard to tell whether someone is a trans-sexual but other times it's not.

I didn't think my right is more important than theirs (although currently the medical experts and people like you think my rights are less important than those of trans-sexuals). I just want to be able to use the bathroom with women instead of men. Is this really so much to ask?

This is akin to saying let the federal government figure out how to address the grievances of black folks. As long as it doesn't impact you directly, let someone else handle it since you don't care at all.

I don't have concrete examples because this is something I read on another forum. Basically what I am trying to say is, it is possible for a man to claim that he is a "woman" and then gets access to goodies that are only meant for women. I am not saying this is very common or anything like that, I just think it's something we should guard against.

 

All those things you listed are not equivalent to using the bathroom with a man. I don't care if you kiss another man in public, non of my business. But if a MAN with a penis walks into the bathroom, well I feel very uncomfortable. And these aren't "prejudices". Just because the medical experts and people like you think that a man with a penis is a woman, it doesn't mean the rest of us have to agree with you and your nonsense. You shouldn't be so judgmental and start slapping label on me just because I have different views than you do.

 

That said, I have always found it a bit barbaric standing around those urine troughs with everyone whipping it out. Damn! Makes you feel like some animal.

 

Actually I had not thought about, but why don't women have some sort of urine troughs? They can just pull down their panties, squat, and do their business.

 

They have a penis, so they should use the men's bathroom. It's too bad that you feel uncomfortable sharing the bathroom with someone that has a penis, which is what you are supposed to do. Maybe pee outside.

Women are supposed to share the bathroom with someone that has a vagina.

By this logic, ANYBODY can feel uncomfortable with me. So I suppose I should just stay home all the time? No. I don't understand people like you. It's not like I ask that all trans-sexuals just suddenly disappear. I am asking that people with a penis not use the women's bathroom. This isn't too much to ask.

You can dismiss me and my posts all you want, I don't care. However, this is not the same as me sharing the bathroom with someone who has a penis. The latter is really disturbing.

I am not taking away their right to use the bathroom. I am just saying they should use the men's bathroom, if they have a penis. Come on people, this isn't too much to ask.

 

Proof of psychological damage? Or did you make that up because you think trans people are icky?

Guess what everyone who has a problem with it? Deal with it.

 

Unfortunately those in various positions of power have decided that the imaginations of .002% of the population (or some other ridiculously insignificant number) take precedence over everyone else.

The normal people do not believe a Man has any "right" to have his imagination validated. Thats all it is, Imagination. A Man is a Man no matter what he "feels" like, genetics simply dont lie.

These basket cases dont belong in the Womens room, (or vice versa) simply because they feel like something they're not. They belong on the doctors couch.


By the way, this nonsense has started polluting sports. An MMA fighter, I forget the name now, and pretend female IS fighting against the other real Women.


Some day people will look back and laugh at the stuff we are doing today.

 

Why don't you present a proof first, since you are the one who want to change.
Yes, there is fact that insane people are in power and they do whatever they want.
It is kind of modern day dictatorship.

 

Let me ask you something. Would you feel uncomfortable with a person who was born with a vagina, but had SRS and now had a penis, sharing the restroom with you?