One of my favorite discredited gun control arguments

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  1. Chickpea

    Chickpea Well-Known Member

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    Nope. Never defended their acts.

    I'm concerned with our actual government, not some government from the past. And the US government has no constitutional authority for any "gun grabbing".

    Nice try though.
     
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  2. Rucker61

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    I ignore your premise as "not pertinent".
     
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  3. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    well then tell us what your post was designed to do. you seem to think that if someone didn't damn activities that took place in a war 240 or so years ago, they cannot damn current democrat schemes to ban or confiscate guns. That you seem to think that there is some relevance to an environment of revolution prior to the creation of the constitution with the current environment, is puzzling
     
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  4. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why does such simple thing need to be explained, and how on earth did you spin it into partisan drivel when there was no mention of any political parties?

    A post was made claiming gun grabbing has never happened in US history, and I proved that to be nonsense. Get it now?
     
  5. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    that wasn't the USA
     
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  6. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whatever makes you happy. LOL

    You gun grabber you.
     
  7. Chickpea

    Chickpea Well-Known Member

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    Translation: "I'm out of anything useful to contribute"
     
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  8. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And this post of yours just drips with information and persuasive arguments. /sarcasm

    Yes, you are right, I have no further comment since I am not into endless loops of repetition like you are. I made my point, and proved the other poster wrong, so my work here is done.
     
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  9. Chickpea

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    Except that the US government has never grabbed guns.

    Repetition is the mother of education.
     
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  10. Pro_Line_FL

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    I'll bet some people are surprised to learn the founding fathers were gun grabbers, - the very same people who wrote the declaration of independence and the Constitution and who went on the serve the country in Congress and even the White House. Did they have a reasonable excuse for it? Yes, they did, because the militia needed the guns. This is also the reason why the word militia appears in the second amendment.
     
  11. Chickpea

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    So what?
     
  12. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I am not the one who pretends to be pro gun but constantly attacks pro gun posts
     
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    so you are claiming because militia appears in the second amendment, that justifies the democrat party trying to confiscate AR 15s?
     
  14. Pro_Line_FL

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    No, I meant what I said. You keep inserting partisan drivel into everything then you ask if someone else did said it. No, you said it, not me. I have not said anything about any political parties or what they are trying to do.

    I'd rather keep my AR15, if you must know, and I never advocated for any confiscations, so I think you keep making these comments just to get some kind of reacting. Its called "trolling". I have no interest for it, so I'll leave you and Chickpea here to give reps to each other
     
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    so what was your purpose with pretending that seizing weapons for militia use is somehow relevant to the USA?
     
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    What's your purpose of pretending to not understand simple English? Seriously?
     
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  17. Turtledude

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    That's irrelevant-I think we all know that you were trying to insinuate that anyone who didn't condemn what happened in this land before the USA was established, but who complains about Democrat instigated gun restrictions, is a hypocrite. And the first poster was right: it didn't happen in the USA
     
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    Me: Whatever you say, but they did disarm people who were not willing to join the militia.

    And then I showed how it happened

    Then some rushed in to argue it was ok, because there was a good reason.

    And then some tried to move the goal posts with "Oh, but it didn't happen in USA".

    No, it was not about USA, it was about what the founders of the USA did.

    It is what it is.
     
  19. Turtledude

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    and it appears your goal is to attack the founders who wrote the second amendment. and I would argue that what happened before the constitution was enacted is meaningless
     
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    If you think the revolution is meaningless, then so be it.
     
  21. Turtledude

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    what a silly attempt to twist what I said.
     
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  22. Chickpea

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    It certainly has no relevance to our current U.S. Government
     
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    Correct. It has nothing to do with 118th United States Congress, and no one ever claimed it does. When I said Founding Fathers, most people understood it cannot be current time.
     
  24. Chickpea

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    I didn't say the 118th congress. I said our current U.S. Government
     
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    Sure. You said that. I never did. Its called "moving the goalposts".
     

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