One of my favorite discredited gun control arguments

Have you ever explained what you think you accomplished by this post? You claimed that you corrected someone who said people weren't forced to join the militia by claiming their arms were seized so the rebels could use them. You insinuated that those who didn't object to that are hypocrites for complaining about current schemes to seize guns even though you know it is a worthless comparison and there wasn't even a constitution then

 

Your interesting historical observation of colonial America has nothing to do with our current US government under the Constitution, which replaced the colonial government.

Where were these goalposts?

 

LOL. I'll let you go knowing you'll repeat the same line until the cows come home.

 

Okay, so you finally accept that your observation of colonial America has nothing do with our current US government. Finally.

Repetition truly is the mother of education.

 

I understand that’s your emotional response, but it’s not logical. The heart is a pump. I see it very differently and I do have kids that I love more than anything else in the world including myself. But their personhood is not seated in a pump.

 

Aman and a woman join and make a new person... which it is when it begins. You have your belief... I have mine. So be it.

 

Yes, it's when life begins.

I am curious how Trump coming out as pro-abortion will be received by those who see abortion as top issue. I can see some having a hard time with it.

 

abortion is a losing issue for the GOP, just as guns is a losing issue for the Dems.

 

Abortion has been a major campaigning issue for GOP, and has brought in millions votes from the Evangelical voters. The question is whether or not his new pro-abortion stance will bring in more votes from independents and Dems than he will lose from Conservatives who see abortion as top issue.

Same it true with Dems and guns, they count on winning more votes than losing based on polls like this from PEW

 

most of those who vote are often ignorant of the laws. and it really means nothing. It could be based on legal acquisition or illegal acquisition

 

When it comes to winning elections it means everything, Every vote counts, and a vote from an ignorant person is worth as much as one from 170 IQ person.

 

that's true but I don't care what stupid or ignorant people believe other than how they vote. those who try to convince me we need more gun bans or gun control because millions of ignorant or stupid people want it is a worthless gambit

 

Plus, the US government has no constitutional authority to "make guns harder to get".

 

yet we both know the US government has done many things it has no proper constitutional authority to do

 

Yep, it has gone rogue.

 

a plague visited upon us by the vermin known as progressives starting a bit over 100 years go

 

Progressives: "Amendments?? We don't need no stinkin' amendments!"

 

In all fairness they foisted the 16th and 17th on us-after that it was dishonest jurists in concert with socialists

 

Those two amendments mark the beginning of the end.

 

And they don't think they care about what you think about it, but you'll have to live with the results either way. Their elected officials CAN create laws to "make guns harder to get", and they already have (felons can't own them, for example).

 

well there gets to be a line in the sand at some point that the stupid people aren't planning on pushing past

 

As a fellow gun rights advocate, I thought you would have written, "And they don't think they care about what WE think about it, but WE'LL have to live with the results either way. "

 

Share your evidence. So, if you don’t join a posse, turn in your guns? Yeah, color me skeptical. Militias have never been compulsory, anywhere I know and is contrary to the principles of Liberty; hell we fought a war where one of the justifications was to end the practice of Brit press gangs.
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I said "you", since I was talking to a poster who says he doesn't care, but obviously all laws apply to everyone.

 

I already shared it. It was not compulsory, but if you didn't join, they grabbed your gun and gave it to someone else. At that time, firearms were quite valuable. I read in the American Rifleman that a good rifle cost about 6 months wages.