One of my technicians just died of Covid

I stand by what I said. Not one bit, have I "backtracked".

 

That sounds about right, BUT it's an OPINION.

Is this right spelled out anywhere?

The right to defend your life with the best available tool is ALSO obvious....AND an enumerated right, but you would disagree....right?

 

What real scientist? You listen to Fauci. He's far too many conflicts of interest to be credible anymore. Your assertion begs the question, statistically, your chances of dying were already very small vice vaccination. Why do you ignore that science? And read your own admonitions. They aren't accurate. When you say "you can still infect unvaccinated", what it should say is that you can infect anyone. Because that is what the data is now showing is possible. You should worry less what Tucker says, and more what actual doctors and researchers are saying before you spread misinformation about a disease that you obviously know so little about.

 

4-year-old boy loses both parents to COVID-19
https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/...rnDqqxOq4r6gylxfl-F4uf4ctcqFjKllnZwePKsDDKb2g

Covid hit, and it ended in disaster': Young couple die within 3 weeks, leaving baby and dogs
https://www.news24.com/news24/south...within-3-weeks-leaving-baby-and-dogs-20210820

So everyone who knew these YOUNG couples know at least two people who died from Covid. "But the odds are astronomical" that none of all those people did not know anyone else who died from Covid

 

Yeah, I know what you mean, but I wonder at what point you would consider it unlikely - 10 COVID victims, 20?

 

What were your search terms?

 

No blame. The man made his own decisions on the vaccine knowing the consequences of losing his job and a higher chance of getting it. Never once blamed the OP. You’re reading something that is not there. I’m just saying that it may have contributed to his odds of interacting with people who may have had it.

You did get one thing right. I am a right winger. Outside of that you’re absolutely wrong in your claim

 

We were just starting to get the vaccines in November. Maybe a few more weeks could have made a difference. I'm glad this precious boy has his grandma and other family.

Covid hit, and it ended in disaster': Young couple die within 3 weeks, leaving baby and dogs
https://www.news24.com/news24/south...within-3-weeks-leaving-baby-and-dogs-20210820

So everyone who knew these YOUNG couples know at least two people who died from Covid. "But the odds are astronomical" that none of all those people did not know anyone else who died from Covid[/QUOTE]
I haven't checked the latest information but I'm not sure South Africa even has the vaccines.

And, every day I wonder why we are fighting over politics.

Hold your babies close.
Tomorrow was never promised.
COVID ramped that up.

Heartbreaking.

P.S. Don't worry about the skeptics. Sometimes it's just too hard to accept something so awful.

 

You never provided facts. You provided an opinion. Claiming your country has had a thousand deaths and you knew a lot of them is an opinion not a fact. In my opinion I think you are a fib teller on that point. If you have facts to back it up go ahead and prove it.

Don’t bloat up on silencing in someone who probably just didn’t want to debate with opinions

 

I know one person who was added to the COVID death list. He was my grandpa who was only added because he had it but it didn’t effect him at all. He tested positive but was Asymptomatic. He never as much coughed. He just was tested every time before going in for Dialysis. Him and his wife (who was healthy) tested positive. He later soon died like we all knew was going to happen. He was on dialysis for 2 years yet he was chalked up as COVID. I think there are likely more cases like him as well.

 

"... sounds about right" is good enough for me. It's progress...

 

I am sorry about the loss of your grandpa, Joe knows.

It's my understanding that people on any kind of long-term treatment (ie. dialysis, chemo, etc.) are more vulnerable to all types of communicable diseases because those treatments lower the immunity a bit. And, of course, being on those types of regular treatments puts our most vulnerable patients around other vulnerable patients.

So, you're saying his actual "cause of death" on his death certificate is "COVID" and not renal failure?

P.S. You meant Asymptomatic (the "a" means *not* in this case) meaning he had NO symptoms.

 

Yes on the death certificate (as far as I was told, I never personally seen it)

no need to apologize. I thought keeping him on dialysis was more sad than just letting him die. Living in a bed, not recognizing anyone but a few people, not being able to move, getting bedsores and, having to pretend you know someone you clearly don’t recognize is no way to live your life. That’s not living at all. He would go back and forth from telling people he would just want to die and then telling people he didn’t want to die. Either way I wasn’t remorseful when he died. I was actually relieved he was in that pain and confusion anymore.

 

I misread your post, I was wrong.

 

You said, " I am aware of a number of deaths of otherwise healthy people under 40 just here in Australia, "
I read that as you were claiming to know several healthy people under 40 who have died. If you were playing along with the thread you would know that we were discussing the improbability of two healthy 40-ish people dying in the same house. So yeah, I was wrong. That said, I stand by my position that it's VERY rare for a young healthy person to die of covid - even if it's happening more frequently with the delta strain.

 

I'm assuming you meant that you were relieved he was not in pain and confusion anymore. That is very often the case in situations like your grandpa's. We remember them when they were younger and healthier and it's hard to watch someone we care about constantly suffer. I don't understand why we are more humane to animals (who can't speak) in pain but force our will on humans (who can speak to make their wishes known) to let them suffer needlessly.

I'm glad you are at peace and am sure your memories of him will always be the pleasant ones!

 

Of course I do, it's a great time to be in the software business.

Why would he make it up? There's infinite possibilities, but I have no reason to believe that he isn't making it up. He's an anonymous person on the internet and there are some strange people on the web. I think he's lying because:
1. His story seems quite improbable - healthy, young people don't generally die of covid, so two in the same household is very unlikely. Hell, when I had the alpha strain my wife didn't even get it. She tested negative.
2. IMO, an employer would generally feel sad and most likely guilt in this scenario - I know I would
3. he uses the anecdote as a means to support his political bent

That's more than enough unlikely to assume that random lefty internet guy may not be being honest. But who really know? I've been wrong before.

 

Thanks for the kind words. My point wasn’t really his death. It’s more to show that people who died from it are likely inflated. Secondly there are people who had it and never will know because they were asymptomatic. Those numbers are also not reported, how could they? So the death rate truly isn’t known. It’s more of a guess.

 

You seem to be up to speed on your US politics but you are wrong about the GOP. Most are thankful he is gone and I'm not seeing anyone emulate his dickishness. The trump cult is an interesting case study and I'm afraid I don't like what it implies about many of our voters. That said, trump was an aberration. Good riddance.

 

I would love to see a study to answer the question if more people that lost their job got COVID or if more people that stayed employed got COVID. I think it would be interesting

 

If this couple was young they were certainly not healthy. Try again.

 

Try and keep up! Where did i say they were young or even healthy

 

https://www.southcoasttoday.com/sto...ners-claim-million-dollar-jackpot/5491409001/

It's a big world.

 

Yes. I agree with that. I tested positive in November and there was ABSOLUTELY NO WAY I was exposed. NONE. My friend that does my shopping is the only person I was around since the lockdowns started in IL and November and she tested negative.

My surgeon called me at 6A to tell me he canceled my outpatient procedure and notified the Health Department. The rep called me a few hours later and I specifically told her that I was asymptomatic and had NO risk factors. Her response was "COVID often pretends like it's a cold or the flu". So, outside the test, how do they differentiate people with some form of influenza or the common cold?

As an outsider to the medical field, it looks like they are taking a paint brush dripping in wet paint and splashing it over EVERYBODY. I'm sure it's probably a bit more refined than that but you get what I mean. ;-0

 

You really need to get on the same bus when jumping in. You've already made a fool of yourself jumping into Bigfella's post and now you are doing it here too!