One of my technicians just died of Covid

Ok ok.... I'll answer. It was the guy who sweeps the floors in the Wuhan lab! He bumped against the cabinet full of flasks containing all the experimental virus, which broke when they fell to the floor and infected everybody in sight!

There now... Are you happy?

 

It's still a worthless comment. Nobody has the right to tell somebody their own truth. That's the reason I have *it* blocked.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-off-without-religion.591264/#post-1072871677

 

A "right"? No.

 

LOL, An amazing "appeal to emotion" logical fallacy. There is no direct correlation between not getting vaccinated and causing anyone to day. In fact 99.9% of those that get it DON'T die.

 

What percentage would have to die for it to be worth it to stop infecting them with a deadly virus?

As for the "emotional" nonsense... looks like it's the latest Tucker Carlson fad. Yeah... people get emotional when others die. Especially when they die because of the actions of irresponsible people. Except psychopaths. They don't care....

 

One can sue a sexual partner for not disclosing their positive HIV status but it's not a crime. It would be a civil suit based on a negligence tort.

https://scholarlycommons.law.wlu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2330&context=wlulr




Using that premise for COVID would be virtually non-existent because people...

1. Can carry and transmit the virus while asymptomatic themselves.

2. It's almost impossible to know where one contracted COVID if all the "known suspects" (people we are around in our everyday lives) all test negative.

3. To prove negligence, one has to have some *measure* of harm. It's not enough to just say "that person's actions hurt me."

For example,

A COVID positive person is able to identify the source of their infection. He/she wants to sue for damages.

1. If the person has recovered from COVID with NO *permanent* harm done (ie. long COVID symptomology) he or she won't meet the burden of proof that the other person's negligence impacted his/her life significantly and expected to be long-term.

2. If the person has recovered from COVID AND has long COVID complications, he/she can prove harm but may not be able to prove intent. [Obviously, a defense to that is "I wasn't aware that I was COVID positive." and the burden of proof (legally) is on the person asking the court for relief (a judgment against the person they are suing).

And, if that's not complicated enough, now we have mutations and variants added to the mix. How does one prove they contracted COVID from someone if they don't know which virus they actually had or which virus the other person actually had?

There's a bunch of other stuff involved with negligence torts but this is the basic foundation.

In short, it's probably next to impossible to be granted remedy in this type of situation.

ETA: I should have written it's not a crime in ALL states (not disclosing HIV+ status to a sexual partner).

 

You're the one wringing his hands and stirring the mud - you answer. What about half- or fully vaccinated folks passing the virus?

LOL, full blown hand-wring, hair pulling emotional nonsense.

 

I don't buy it.

Either that or they were both morbidly obese and went to shitty doctors. But I thought we had the bestest health care in the world?

Yeah, I don't buy it.

 

What about them? You're the one defending some non-existent "right" to infect others with a deadly virus.

 

Fourth Amendment grants us to the secure our affairs, persons, and property. You're using the fallacy that every non-vaccinated person is running around infecting everyone within the same zip code (you exaggerate, so I feel free to do so as well).
Before you ask, I have been fully vaccinated by Moderna since mid-March.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...r-ashli-babbitt.591413/page-3#post-1072884879

 

@Golem, I think this kind of thing should be criminal. It's one thing to not wear a mask, personally, but to intermingle people's faith with that nonsense should be a no-go.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/did-anybody-know-that-god-cant-hear-well.591464/

 

How do you know he was out looking for jobs everywhere? And, even if he was, what makes you think he got it from that? That's a ton of assumptions.

Did you know this guy?

 

I’m not saying the young man got Covid at your business. But the incubation period of Covid ranges from 2-14 days.

I’m sorry to hear about this family. I share your desire for better information to save lives but I’m not holding my breath at this point.

 

Assuming he wasn’t looking for a job is also an assumption. It very likely that the loss of his job pushed him to interact in different ways and maybe in unsafer ways. It is a possibility

 

I never made a declarative statement about his job search at all.

Sure, anything is possible. It just seemed a bit accusatory, is all, and I wanted to understand your point of view.

 

I wouldnt be against lawsuits were you knowingly have covid and kiss someone without notifying them.

 

Yet another right winger trying to blame the OP for the death of an unvaccinated man & his wife. One might just be chance. Two is looking like a pattern

I'll just repeat what I said earlier - how does a person get to the point where that is considered a reasonable response? I don't understand it & I never will.

 

Notice the silence once I provided the facts? Plenty more posts on this thread, but no response. I guess its easier to accuse someone of lying than to admit that you were wrong.

 

I don't either and I'm certain that puts us on the right side of sane and empathy.

 

I've been up for about 30 hours. Summarize it for me, please.

 

As I said earlier, I'm pleased that I don't get it. I really am.

It does make the Trump phenomenon easier to understand. Clearly some Trump voters didn't vote for him despite his vile personality, but because of it.

 

Sorry. If you go back to the post of yours I quoted you will see my post before it where I provided facts & links showing that healthy under 40s in Australia died of COVID and that hospitalization of under 40s was something like 40% of the total. I was basically accused of making it up. I provided the evidence and, hey presto! silence.

He might respond now that I've called him out, but not expecting an admission he was wrong.

 

Oh, yeah. Most definitely. I've never seen so much unbridled hatred over politics. Both my parents and former in-laws were on opposite sides politically and I *never* witnessed the respective couples fight like this. I've seen both have disagreements but never over politics.

It really bothers me sometimes. Lincoln said it..."A house divided against itself cannot stand."

 

I think most of them. Trump is "tough"; everything in a politician for many people, though they clearly misunderstand the word quite badly.