Only 37% of Democrats want a second Biden term – a 15% decline from October

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I doubt anyone who remembers 2020 would think it was better than now. 2020 was the worst year in a VERY long time. Lock-downs, massive lay-offs, riots, chaos, crime, recession, etc Of course there are always some people who will SAY they are worse off, but its based on partisan attitude and nothing else.

    Biden IS too old to run again, and he should just announce that he has no intention of running. He can be a 1-term president by choice and there is no shame if its by choice as opposed to getting voted out.
     
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    Seems the Dems who don't want him re-elected are
    Good to know majority of Dems aren't sheep in regards to re-electing Biden.
     
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    Ever thought that women were just past over for judgeships for decades and many deserving female judges had to wait till now?
    No that thought doesn't cross your mind, cause you need men to be the victim here.

    As for spending, BOTH parties have been out of control for a long time - starting with Reagan's 178% increase in the debt.
     
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    Actually that's the Russian way. A whole another atmosphere away from what the left stands for in America. The left is total opposite of that Russian noise you see in that picture.
     
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    Those aren't Russians, and that's been the "progressive" way since the French Revolution...

    BLM KENOSHA.jpg

    The Left in America stands for the same thing the Left has always stood for - power.
     
  6. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    So well put! Lol
    Ya know, I'm coming away with the same feeling after reading assorted leftwingers' posts. They actually believe the policies are wonderful. :roflol:
     
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    Here's an idea. Who decides what is good for "all"? That's the problem with your theory. It leaves out what the individual thinks.
     
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    That's odd considering what the polls were saying about the country going in the wrong direction. Is it cognitive disconnect?
     
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    I don't think curbing inflation is going to happen quickly and like I said above, the consumer is going to have a tough road ahead. Consumers equal voters. Connect the dots.

    It's been said by Fed's Jerome Powell, it's not going to be an easy feat, and painstaking.
    Fed’s Jerome Powell Braces for Longer Inflation Fight Amid Hiring Surge - WSJ

    The country is not strong when the current administration keeps blaming the Republicans for what they've done so spare me what you think the "Republicans" aren't going to do to make the country stronger". IF they did nothing it would still be better than the Dems spending money we don't have.

    IF the Dems had the house majority, we would for sure have a longer period of inflation ahead of us. Adding more debt certainly wouldn't get us on the road to recovery sooner.

    I'm sorry, but your last sentence makes no sense. The public will vote in the primaries. Why do you automatically assume that a crazy person will win the nomination? Btw, the House under Republican control is a good thing during a period of high inflation. They are unlikely to be passing spending bills that will add to runaway inflation.
     
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    Well, they've had a great teacher. Go Brandon! :confused:
     
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    No wonder it rings like something Stalin or Hitler would say.
     
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    It's built on authoritarianism. The collective is expected to conform to the government's expectations of us. Instead of protecting individual rights, they decide what rights the collective needs.
     
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    This is par for the course. The GOP do not want Trump to run again and the Democrats want someone with more energy in 2024 as a counterweight to DeSantis.
     
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    Sounds great in theory but we need to know if DeSantis is, in fact, running. I don't think anyone, old or young, will be able to beat DeSantis, should he win the nomination, btw.
     
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    Can you explain how you come, to your opinion? It has been clear, already, that Biden was intending on announcing another run, in '24. The document scandal, was a hiccup in that plan. But later developments seem to be lessening its impact: that is, these documents may turn out being nothing very significant, and may only reinforce the interpretation-- which documents in Pence's possession, as well, undergirds-- that it is a result of over-classification, by government. There are literally so many millions of "classified" documents, that no one in our Archives even realized that documents from the Obama years, were missing. And this over-classification does not serve the country's or public's best interest; many things get classified, not because of any security issue, but because it might be embarrassing, for someone in government. If Joe revamps the process for declassifying, which is woefully inadequate, he could even turn this negative, into a net positive. But we will need wait see how that develops.

    While there is some concern over Biden's age, primarily because it is higher than anyone else, previously elected President, there is no one you can name, who would not cause some, to have concerns, about something. In fact, despite there being a desire for younger leaders-- because people, over time, will continue living longer, it is only logical to expect that we will see older and older leaders.

    The fact is, that Biden is time-tested. Anyone looking at the last two years, and rating Biden's performance as sub-par, I honestly feel is either partisan-- prioritizing ridiculous, culture war issues, like trans-gender rights, school indoctrination, and the scourge of CRT-- or, if a Democrat, someone not very politically astute. While Biden has not been perfect, that is not a realistic bar, since
    no one is flawless, in that job. Sure, the Afghanistan pull out was sloppy. And maybe we provided a little too much stimulus, which turned into additional inflationary fuel-- but better that, than to have fallen short. Yet focusing on these is to ignore that there have been many, significant successes, Biden has won, which were, by no means, givens. Compared to "average," Joe is a star. List for me Biden's failures, that you think makes a fresh face, an overall, better bet.
     
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    What is quite interesting, is that Republicans are so intent, it seems, on wanting Democrats to run someone other than Biden. So good of you all, to want to prevent we Dems, from putting up a candidate who can't win, against whoever you put up against him. I'll return the favor: no way that Trump will win. And, even if he's younger, DeSantis is a loser, as well. Let me know, if you'd like me to go into the reasons, as to why I say that.
     
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    Funny thing is several polls are showing DEMOCRATS want someone other than Biden to run, also. First bi-partisan agreement in years.
     
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    And what would you rate as the probability, that the response to that poll question is going to stay relatively unchanged, for the next year and a half, or so? IOW, what is the chance that such results, at this point, are not essentially meaningless?

    Remember: "It's the economy, stupid!" If that is doing well, in 2024, Republicans can kiss the White House goodbye.
     
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    So, you're positing that somehow Biden is going to continue doing the same dumbass stuff and the economy is going to miraculously turn around? You know what they say about people who do the same thing over and over and expect different results, right?
     
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    Nikki Haley will be announcing next week and DeSantis will announce by the end of the year, preferably in the fall. So far, the Trump Campaign is flat with no energy too. So, this will be an unusual year for electioneering. That is for sure.
     
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    If Biden's a star how come America doesn't share your opinion? I guess you are in the 36% "of Americans surveyed said they thought Biden had accomplished “a great deal” or “a good amount.” Okay, your prerogative to be among the minority.

    "Most in new poll say Biden hasn’t achieved much in first two years | The Hill
    Sixty-two percent of Americans say President Biden has not achieved much during his first two years in office, a new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows, despite efforts by Democratic leaders to frame that time as the most productive in Washington since Lyndon Baines Johnson’s “Great Society” agenda."

    Perhaps, it is you who should inform the 62% who were polled what exactly they have wrong.
     
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    From where did you buy your crystal ball? Or is this simply your opinion that DeSantis is all in and will be announcing at the end of the year? Not saying you're wrong, but let's try not to put the cart before the horse. Thanks. :)
     
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    I don't really think the Biden devotees are reading or understanding what is being said by Democrats from their own party.
    They. don't. want. him. either.
     
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    FYI: 1) The economy has been doing very well, relative to the rest of the world.

    2) Inflation has been moving consistently, in the right direction (down).

    3) Economies do not typically stay static; they are dynamic, and have cycles-- even if one does "the same thing."

    IOW, you have chosen the wrong analogy and expression, for this situation. Better luck, on your next try... or are you just going to stick to the same tack?
     
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    And why are you not crowing, about how well this bodes for your own Party?
     

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