Only a Palestinian State ensures Israel's survival

Jews were a minority in Palestine after 135 AD?????

not soo fast, buddy.

it appears that there were hundreds of thousands of Jews in the region, long after the defeat to the Romans.

soo many Jews, that they helped the Persians conquer Palestine, and Palestine again became under Jewish autonomy in the 7th century, in Jerusalem, Galilee, and Judea.

small minority groups aren't given control of such large areas.

 

That is according to you. I find different :

The Kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Neo-Assyrian Empire (circa 722 BCE) and the Kingdom of Judah by the Neo-Babylonian Empire (586 BCE). Upon the defeat of the Babylonian Empire by the Achaemenid Empire under Cyrus the Great, the Jewish elite returned to Jerusalem and the Second Temple was built.

In 165 BCE, the independent Hasmonean Kingdom was established. Although coming under the sway of various empires and home to a variety of ethnicities, the area of ancient Israel was predominantly Jewish until the Jewish–Roman wars. After this time, Jews became a minority in most regions, except Galilee. The area became increasingly Christian after the 3rd century and then largely Muslim from the 7th century conquest until well into the 20th century.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel

in 135 AD, the Romans expelled the Jews from Jerusalem and Judea and they now concentrated in the cities of Tiberias and Sepphoris in Galilee. Some of the Greek and Syrian colonists brought in by Hadrian to repopulate his new officially pagan city of Aelia Capitolina were probably Christian.

http://www.welcometohosanna.com/JERUSALEM_TOUR/aeliacap.htm


Jewish annals record that 50 forts and 985 villages were destroyed and that 580,000 Jews were killed during the course of the war. The Romans for their part were reputed to have lost the legio XXII Deiotariana. In the rebellion's aftermath, Hadrian permanently banned Jews from setting foot in Jerusalem and then rebuilt the city as a Roman colony.

Under Jewish Autonomy ? Yep , an interest period - but it didn't last long did it ?

The Persian Conquest Of Jerusalem

"The Jews then purchased the Christians from the Persians and massacred them. He claimed that the total Christian death toll was 66,509.

The immediate results of the conquest of Jerusalem by a Persian-Jewish force filled the Jews with joy and pride. Many Christians became Jews through fear. The Jews were free from the Christian yoke for about fourteen years. They hoped that King Khosrau would permit them to establish a Jewish commonwealth. Some suggest that such an autonomous Jewish province was indeed established. If so, it barely got off the ground before the tide turned.

Three years after Nehemiah was appointed, the Persians removed the Jewish governor of Jerusalem for reasons that were never clearly stated. Perhaps they feared his messianic pretensions - or they made a strategic decision that the support of the larger Christian population was more valuable than that of the smaller number of Jews. After executing the Jewish governor and ending the Jewish rule of the city, the Persians forbade Jews from settling within a three-mile radius of Jerusalem.

The Persian control of the city, however, did not last long. Byzantine emperor Heraclius (575-641) waged a bitter war against the Persians in order to regain his lost provinces of Syria, Egypt and Palestine. He successfully destroyed the Persian army in 628 and in the following year marched into Jerusalem at the head of his army. Though he had promised an amnesty to Jerusalem's Jews, the Christian clergy of Jerusalem convinced him that his promise was invalid; subsequently the Byzantines accused the Jews of Jerusalem of having cooperated with the Persian conquerors and massacred them.

When the Persian conquest of Palestine took place in 614 CE, no one could have foreseen the long range consequences of this event. However, with hindsight it becomes evident that this was a major turning point in the history of the Near East. The brutalities of the invading armies, involving large scale damage to churches and a mass killing of the local Christian population, was undoubtedly one of the causes for the rapid Muslim conquests, twenty years later.

http://www.jewishmag.com/161mag/persian_conquest_jerusalem/persian_conquest_jerusalem.htm


Cheers

 

another bit :

"The Persian invasion of 614 was welcomed and aided by the Jews, who were inspired by messianic hopes of deliverance. In gratitude for their help, they were granted the administration of Jerusalem, an interlude which lasted about three years.

Subsequently, the Byzantine army regained the city (629) and again expelled its Jewish population

--http://contenderministries.org/middleeast/timeline.php

I wonder why ?.

 

because they were anti-Jewish bigots, who hated the Jews for rejecting their false messiah.

there are many Christians today who still hate Jews for that exact reason.

our existance is a thorn in the side of their conception of truth.

 

That reminds me of Einstein's quote

" "For me the Jewish religion like all others is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions. And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people. As far as my experience goes, they are no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them."

I wonder what he'd say if he witnessed what Jews have done since 1948 no longer
"protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power"
in Palestine ?


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i understand that u have a deep desire to blaim Jews for Christian anti-Semitism, but it doesn't make it right.

Christian faith is based on the idea that Jesus is the Messiah and son of God, that the Covenant with the Jews is over and a new covenant exists.

The Jews, Jesus' own people, reject this idea as silly, as believe God is honest and doesn't lie about thing being "everlasting" and eternal.

The very fact that millions of Jews, for more than 2,000 years still reject Jesus' divinity and message, is a very sharp thorn in the side of Christianity.

a thorn that has caused Christians to exile, massacre, rape, murder, and butcher us for a very long time.

but we still survive. and we always will.