Organ trafficking Sudan to Israel

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  1. Abu Sina

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    Sudanese traffickers arrange Sudanis to cross into Egypt to migrate to Lebanon.

    When they arrive in North Sinai they are told that they are being sent to Israel not Lebanon and handed to Bedouin who ask for more money.

    The ones who cannot pay are then killed and organs removed and organs given to Israeli border guards in exchange for weapons.

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    Organs then transported to Israel by Israeli border guards.

    "Egyptian Bedouin gangsters get money or weapons for organs smuggled to Israel, where the organs can be sold for three times their cost"


    "Mohammad Rashid, sheikh of Altyaha tribe, revealed the identity of one person behind human organ trafficking in Sinai. Rashid said S. N. is behind this trafficking and is a fugitive sentenced to life in prison. Rashid said S. N. hides the Africans in a secret cave 40 kilometers away from Nakhl town and 155 from Arish.

    The Bedouins noticed some Africans in S.N's house, and he later confessed during a tribal council sessions that he trades in slavery as a way to get money. Residents of the town feared of changing the matter to be a mafia so they forced him to leave the town two months ago. Later, a mass grave filled with torn bodies and skeletons was unearthed 500 meters from his house, said Rashid.

    "When we broke into S.N.'s house 30 days ago, we found documents proving that money was transferred from Israel to his account," said an Altyaha resident. He said the residents also found out a secret cave in which they found 80 live persons who they handed over to Nakhl Police station.
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    http://english.youm7.com/News.asp?NewsID=347655

    Well this is one way the Israelis are getting their organs for transplant!

    Bedouin, Israeli and Sudani dogs!!!!!:twisted:
     
  2. Abu Sina

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    a set of teeth fetch $15,000 :omg:

    what like Auchwitz ??????

    what do the Israeli do with the Africans teeth?

    someone tell me please???????
     
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    Why do you find this story credible? What do you know about the Sudanese Studies Center? What do you know about Sallie Pisch who started this site in march?
     
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    With modern internet and media, the story doesn't even have to be true anymore to be credible. The very fact that someone wrote it, added a few pictures is all it takes and someone, somewhere will find it, believe and spread it.

    The damage is done regardless of the truth of the claims. Its yet another example of the terrible bigotry that Jews around the world face every day at the hands of muslims and the UN.
     
  5. MrRelevant

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    Even he must be laughing at this comedy.

    The thing is he's got enough fellow antisemites in the penis gallery here to keep such Jew bashing mainstream.
     
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    Fact-finding commission on organ trafficking to convene

    Wednesday Nov 2, 2011

    CAIRO: The Egyptian High Committee for Organ Transplantation will send Egyptian Minister of Health Amr Hilmi a proposal to form a fact-finding committee, which would be charged with investigation into the illicit organ transplantation in North Sinai, said Abdel Hamid Abaza, the chairman of the Committee.

    This proposed committee will conduct investigations with doctors who confirmed the trafficking ring, involving African migrants who illegally emigrate to Israel. This investigation could lead to prosecution using the organ transplantation statute for the first time ever, said Abaza.

    The stealing of organs in this trafficking ring is quite dangerous because, for example, the liver cannot be out of the body for more than 16 hours and requires proper oversight by medical experts, he said, adding that the cornea is the only body part that can be transplanted without medical analysis.

    The Youm7 report penetrated the world of organ traffickers who often prey on African migrants, whose organs are harvested and sold, and whose corpses are then left to decompose in the surrounding Sinai desert.

    The remains of five dead Africans are inside the Arish Hospital Mortuary.

    Egyptian security also found the bodies of two Africans killed by gunshot wounds on the Egyptian-Israeli border. Their identities are unknown as of publication and the bodies were transferred also to Arish Hospital.

    Decomposition suggests that the two unnamed Africans were killed several days ago.

    Meanwhile, Egyptian police thwarted an infiltration to Israel attempt today, chasing 17 migrants at the Awja exit.....



    Sallie Pisch
    Sallie Pisch is currently wrapping up an undergraduate career which has led her from her home university in Rome to semesters in Cairo and exploring Brazil's southern Amazon basin, as well as shorter case-study trips to Ghana, Northern Ireland, and Montenegro, among others. She loves spending time in the Mediterranean and Arab worlds and always travels with a camera and a smile. She comes from a small town in northern Virginia and spends her free time reading, playing guitar, walking Rome's tangle of ancient streets, and riding horses in the desert.
    Currently Attending: The American University of Rome pursuing a BA in International Relations
    Areas of Interest: Mediterranean and Middle Eastern Studies, political Islam, the politics of Identity
    Organizations: Former President of the International Relations Club (AUR) Head Delegate and 3-year particpant of AUR's delegation to the Harvard National Model United Nations
    Awards and Achievements: Has presented papers for academic conferences at both the American University of Rome and the American University of Cairo


    http://salliepisch.com/
     
  7. The Doctor

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    Typical anti-semitic blood libel without a shred of evidence presented to back it up.
     
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    I find it interesting that I couldn't find a source other than this Youm7 for this story (apart from those who picked the story up without adding any additional "facts"), but I did find a bunch of reputable links about the high rate of organ trafficking in Egypt proper and have included two of them here.

    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/egypt/090407/organ-trade-endangers-egypts-poorest
    http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/news.aspx?id=176045

    This story may be yet another case of accusing your enemy of the crimes you regularly commit yourself, Maybe Abu Sina should look at the dreadful record of Egypt before getting so hot under the collar about Israel.

    The indignant Doctor should note that there is a documented history (from reputable sources like the IDF and the Israeli legal system) of Israeli organ trafficking in the past so the blood libel isn't so unbelievable as all that (as opposed to the historical libel of sacrificing gentile children in cellars).
     
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    Will CNN do?
    or do you only accept Fox?

    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/03/world/meast/pleitgen-sinai-organ-smugglers/
     
  10. Gilos

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    We collect them, we need Chinese next to complete the series

    But the rates are outragous, i dont know anyone that would pay that much for teeth, an African dick - perhaps....
     
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    Because they end up in Israel, is it state run crime? Or are we to assume, with the way you generalize, all Jews in Israel are involved in organ trafficking?

    What you are advertising is not what is actually contained in your links.

    Looks to me like Egypt is the one one the hook.
     
  12. Abu Sina

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    Strange you would collect things the Germans used to collect.

    What next?

    Collection of hair or skulls?
     
  13. junobet

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    Of course you as a people don't collect teeth.
    But as an Israeli citizen maybe you should be worried about the low rate of organ donations in Israel and do something about it (like getting a donor's card, if you don't have one already). And you should see to it that the laws prohibiting organ trafficking the Knesset passed in 2008 are actually enforced. If I were you I would want the OP article's claims investigated and if any culprits were found I'd want to see them sentenced. For its success it would be good if Egypt and Israel cooperated in such an investigation. A cooperation which may also lead to better relations with one of Israel's neighbouring states.
     
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    OK, investigate....


    Just dont invesigate the hash traffic....we need that....(althou the Lebanese stuff is waaay better)
     
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    Try getting advice from some Dutch on home-growing. And start a legalize-it campaign so as to not to run into trouble. :mrgreen:
     
  16. MrRelevant

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    Still technically illegal in the Netherlands.

    You need a decriminalization campaign.
     
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    Im shocked isrealies will accept organs from people who are not of the chosen race.

    or are these african jews that are being butcherd?
     
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    Hey times are tough. They just have a rabbi trim them up and bless them as kosher.
     
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    So you nothing about the study center in Sudan and enough about Sallie Pisch to know she has precious little journalistic credentials and yet you swallow the story raw.
     
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    Had to think about you AbuSina -- I had read the title of this thread yesterday and when I was watching CNN International earlier on they were reporting on the story.

    Apparantly they will air an "extra report" this weekend.

    Very cruel story...
     
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    Well that's one takle on this thread but I'm surprised that is yours and not the cultivation of hatred against Israelis and Egyptian minorities. Why do you find the story credible?
     
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    Your supporting links saying nothing about Israelis collecting them but accusations you Egyptians are doing so!
     
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    Agreed, I've heard nothing of Israel either...

    Hence, I'll be watching CNN International this weekend...
     
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    I'm surprised that you think that I'm in the habit of cultivating hatred against any ethnic, cultural or religious group. Can you point out any posts by me that would indicate that I'm prone to hatred?

    Why do I find the story credible? Well saying that it should be investigated is a bit different than to say it's credible, isn't it?

    But I wouldn't be surprised if these investigations verified the story, because the Beduins who engage in human trafficking in Sinai are known to be quite ruthless (http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/12/09/egypt-end-traffickers-abuse-migrants) and Israel - that due to religious reasons is quite short of organ donors - has had problems with organ trafficking in the past. Two examples:

    http://articles.cnn.com/2009-12-21/...s-harvested-israel-defense-forces?_s=PM:WORLD
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8608053.stm

    To point out these sad facts doesn't mean that I hate Egyptians, Beduins or Israelis in general, does it?
     

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