Palestinian terror in the holy city Jerusalem.

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  1. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now you're back-peddling. Why don't you just admit you made a mistake, an exaggeration? Would that have been too difficult?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No mistake was made. I stated a fact about Jewish immigration from North Africa and the Middle East to Israel, you baselessly claimed it was wrong, and I provided evidence that I was right.
     
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    Spare me the wiki. By WJE I mean Ashkenazi. Non of which were in Israel prior to 1940 (roughly). Idont consider Spanish and African Jews as part of the WJE movement. Spanish and African Jews are descended from the Israelites and the WJE not, imho.
     
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    I was in Jerusalem last Thursday and watched Jewish nationalists do their "Flag March" in the Old City. They carry their flags and march into Arab neighborhoods basically to tell Arabs to get the hell out of their country. That kind of attitude is not helpful and clearly the objective the exact opposite from helpful, - the march is designed to instigate problems. Our guide told us to leave the area because these events can get violent, which did happen after we left.

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    So Sephardic Jews have Israelite ancestry but Ashkenazi do not???

    That's stupid. And incorrect.
     
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    Genetic studies show Ashkenazi Jews are about 50% Israelite heritage. And btw, most Sephardic Jews are in fact, white. :)
     
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    some yes. Ashkenazi are descended from Eastern Europeans, generally speaking.
     
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    Genetic studies show Ashkenazi Jews are about 50% Israelite heritage.

    Same with Sephardic Jews.
     
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    the white sephardis are converts. Ashkenazi don't have any Israelite heritage. Maybe like 1% of them do but the 99% are Eastern Europeans
     
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    No, white Sephardic Jews are not converts. You're just making things up.

    And in general 50% of the genetic history of Ashkenazi Jews is in fact Israelite. Science doesn't lie. Get over it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genet...ng_that_an,to_Europe_and_took_new?wprov=sfla1
     
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    Yes, many white sephardis are converts. 99% of Ashkenazi are not descended from Israelites. You're pulling stats out of thin air. Science and history doesn't lie. Facts don't care about your feelings
     
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    I can't wait to see the basis for the 1% figure.

    Must be from a very reputable genetic or medical study.

    LOL!!!!!
     
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    Give me one, your best one.(that will prove you've actually read it you see)

    That's all I ask.
     
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    It looks like just about every night is Kristalnacht in the occupied territories.
     
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    1% was speculative, it's likely 0%
     
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    Right so you were just giving baseless speculation you have no evidence for your claim whatsoever. It's just pulled out of thin air. Meanwhile I have provided scientific documents.

    Considering all the different genetic studies that have been performed over the last 25 years, it is fair to assume that about 50% of Ashkenazi DNA is European and the rest is Israelite.
     
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    It's likely that Ashkenazi are 0% related to the 12 tribes, which is why they're commonly known as the 13th tribe.
     
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    And again all you have is baseless nonsense you have no scientific articles to support your claims at all.

    You're just pulling stuff out of thin air.
     
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    Same as you're doing. Unless you want to give me YOUR ONE BEST SOURCE for Ashkenazi Israelite heritage....
     
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    I have supplied multiple articles.

    You have provided zero articles.

    Basically you're just making **** up.
     
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    There is scholarly evidence that The WJE are considered the 13th tribe.
     
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    Give me YOUR BEST SHOT!

    One article is all I ask, ima scholar, I'd be fascinated.
     
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    The articles I have posted have refuted that claim as nonsense. You lose.
     
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