Palin's exceptional, constitutional and ethical track record

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  1. Yukon

    Yukon Banned

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    Conservatives oppose any piece of legislation that would elevate the rights of a minority group to equality with their (conservative) rights. After all it was "conservatives that built this here country boy and dont you fergit it, yer either wit us or yer agin us"
     
  2. Woogs

    Woogs Well-Known Member

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    Here is a brief look at the founders of the ACLU. Just by looking at the founders, the agenda is questionable, at best. I hardly think this group has somehow completely morphed from its origins.

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    Roger Baldwin

    The first director of the ACLU. It is possible that he never joined the Communist Party as a member, although he states himself "I joined. I don’t regret being a part of the Communist tactic, which increased the effectiveness of a good cause. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the Communists wanted". He supported the Soviet Union and communism & socialism in all it's ugly forms. After refusing to comply with a draft notice, Baldwin deliberately violated the Selective Service Act, which resulted in a celebrated trial and a jail term of 1 year.

    William Z. Foster

    National Chairman of the Communist Party USA and a ACLU co-founder. This communist was famous for this 1932 quote: "The establishment of an American Soviet government will involve the confiscation of large landed estates in town and country, and also, the whole body to forests, mineral deposits, lakes, rivers and so on." He was the author of Toward Soviet America.

    Norman Thomas

    Presbyterian minister and radical socialist who advocated the total abolition of capitalism. he was also a eugenicist, wanting to stop reproduction of "undesirables. In other words just like Himmler and the SS. He ran as a presidential candidate for the Socialist Party a total of 6 times.

    Crystal Eastman

    Not a valid communist but definitely a socialist, radical feminist, who wanted legalized prostitution. With Roger Baldwin she helped form the NCLB which grew into the American Civil Liberties Union, with Baldwin at the head and Eastman as attorney. Eastman is credited as a founding member of the ACLU, and with creating the First Feminist Congress, also the National Woman’s Peace Party. She was a antimilitarist, pacifist who wanted the USA to unilaterally disarm.

    Helen Keller

    Yes that is right, Helen Keller. Famous from the play and later films "The Miracle Worker". But anyhow she was an avid socialist and supported Eugene V. Debs in his campaigns for the presidency. It seems that Hollywood and government sponsored schools has done it again. How many of us really knew that she (Helen Keller) in the early 1920s, wrote and spoke flatteringly about both German variations of socialism, the national socialism of Adolf Hitler and international revolutionary socialism, or communism of Lenin/Stalin?

    Elizabeth Flynn Gurley

    A totally committed communist, she later became chairman of CPUSA. She joined the party in 1936 after the ACLU was formed, she had been a Socialist since 1906 before the ACLU was formed. She was arrested June 1951 and charged with violating the Alien Registration Act. She was given a state funeral in Red Square!

    A. J. Muste

    An odd man in that he was at first an ordained pastor, he voted for Eugene V. Debs in 1912. Went on to help form the CPLA. Later he became an avowed Marxist-Leninist. He and James Cannon of the Trotskyist movement, then merged his own political group with Cannon's, forming the Trotskyist Workers Party of America. . He later later became a Christian pacifist after a trip to Norway when he met with Leon Trotsky.

    Harry F. Ward

    Dazed and Confused should have been this mans moniker! Reverend Harry F. Ward and a lifetime communist. Come on people you know he also authored "Soviet Democracy" and "Soviet Spirit," two very pro-Communist books. How this man could claim Jesus as his King and at the same time hail Marx/Lenin/Stalin and communism, which seeks to destroy any form of faith except it's own faith in communism itself. He must surly have been either a Judas or a fool.

    http://desertsunrise.net/Politically Correct/The Real ACLU/real_aclu.htm
     
  3. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Try instead looking at the significant cases the ACLU has actually been involved in:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_court_cases_involving_the_American_Civil_Liberties_Union
     
  4. Yukon

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    This Thread is not worthy of further input from myself. Sara Palin is a laughable joke and I have lowered myself to even read it let alone comment.
     
  5. Woogs

    Woogs Well-Known Member

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    I could go tit for tat with you on that basis. Defense of NAMBLA, prosecution of the Boy Scouts (they contend the Boy Scouts is a religion), suing over immigration laws...yeah, you gotta love the ACLU. :rolleyes:

    Just as the best lies have some measure of truth, the ACLU has some 'good' cases' to its credit. It is absent on many others it 'could' have been in on, such as any 2nd amendment cases. And while, in the 1950's, the ACLU's founder began having its officers take a non-communist oath, this was in response to the ACLU being labeled a Communist front organization.

    Given the history of its founding and the issues it cherry-picks, the statement you made earlier makes no sense at all. With 'friends' like the ACLU, who needs enemies?

    Your statement...

    "Most "conservatives" oppose the ACLU, for example, and this is an organization exclusively dedicated to protecting the unalienable and Constitutionally protected Rights of the individual."
     
  6. ccsipapi

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    I believe that you forgot the one where she quit her job as Governor of Alaska, turning her back on those that voted for her, so that she could make more money giving speeches and selling her books.
     
  7. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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  8. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hmm. Looks like she is out.

    Palin Opts Against 2012 Presidential Run

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...sidential-run/
     
  9. Clint Torres

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    I'm amazed that there are people too simple to see through the propaganda.
     
  10. Alucard

    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    It cannot be denied that Sarah Palin did do some good achievements while Governor of Alaska.
     

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