Part 14 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

God has always stayed on the side of good He has never change His heart.

 

An evil atheist country.

It practice in punishing Buddhist, Confusionist, Shamanist and few Christians anyone who refused to worship the LEADER face death!

Japan is now a very progressive and civilized country that have no problem with Christianity and have use religion to promote peace and harmonious life.

Those atheist are the communist.

 

If they don't exist then this mean there was never a war, God never ordered the wiping out of the Amalekite or any babies for that matter right.

Other tribes eventually made peace with the Hebrews but not the Amalekites.

On the contrary the Amalekites have been mention their lineage and their extreme hatred for the Hebrews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalek
The Amalekites were a people mentioned a number of times in the book of Genesis, and considered to be Amalek's descendants. In the chant of Balaam at Numbers, 24:20, Amalek was called the 'first of the nations', attesting to high antiquity.[2]
The name is often interpreted as "dweller in the valley",[3][4] and occasionally as "war-like," "people of prey", "cave-men
In some rabbinical interpretations, Amalek is etymologised as a people am, who lick blood
Still it's only a story.

Other tribes have made peace except the Amalekites who are bend on exterminating the Hebrews there was no middle ground between them it is winner take all war to the death that was how brutal and extreme the Amalekites were.

In that case what is your problem?
The Nazis were like the Amalekites.

 

Japan has become a progressive and civilized country SINCE leaving behind superstition. You're a little upside-downsy.

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I look forward to his answer. I think!

 

Wanren would claim to eat his own children if it furthered his satanic agenda. He will say anything to make christianity and God look foolish.

 

I guess satan has not yet answered your prayers yet because I have not yet converted over to you as you can see I am still with God only satan and his followers will make God look foolish and so far you are doing a bad job because I have been very successful in thwarting all your attempts to lie about God the only thing you have probably and I say probably succeeded is gain some satanic followers I hope I am wrong.

 

You are wrong you want it to make it your debate the reality is that 95% of Christians worship and accept Jesus Christ because we accept the Bible as factual. You are delusional thinking that is not the case.

So far you have failed in that category

 

That is good I always look forward to your satanic deception I bet satan is very disappointed with you because I am still with God and you are slowly coming over to God's side and that is why satan is disappointed with you
You should just say it I AM ON GOD'S SIDE you can do it, renounce Satan!

 

It's because you didn't look at Joshua 2:10-11 nor did you look at Joshua 9:9. Let's take a look at those passages:

"For we have heard how the Lord made a dry path for you through the Red Sea when you left Egypt. And we know what you did to Sihon and Og, the two Amorite kings east of the Jordan River, whose people you completely destroyed. No wonder our hearts have melted in fear! No one has the courage to fight after hearing such things. For the Lord your God is the supreme God of the heavens above and the earth below."---Joshua 2:10-11 NLT

"They answered, "Your servants have come from a very distant country. We have heard of the might of the Lord your God and of all he did in Egypt."---Joshua 9:9 NLT

So these two passages illustrates that they knew about the powerful God of Israel thus in essence God had revealed Himself to them.

We also read in Scripture, "So the Lord made a covenant with Abram that day and said, “I have given this land to your descendants, all the way from the border of Egypt to the great Euphrates River—the land now occupied by the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgash ites, and Jebusites.”---Genesis 15:18-21 NLT

God wanted those people destroyed because He did not want the Israelites to be taught to follow all the detestable things those people did in worshiping their false gods which would influence the Israelites to sin against the one true LORD God.

Refer to Leviticus 18:1-30 to get a thorough picture of the detestable sins these people were committing.

 

Well the situation is not quite the same as it was back in the days of the people living in the land of Canaan during the days of Joshua. For one thing today's people don't practice child sacrifice to false gods but of course there are people who engage in sexual promiscuity and deviancy.

Another thing that is not the same is that the God of the Bible, the Christian God is not commanding these extremists Muslim jihadists to carry out terroristic attacks on the world. It is just not the same thing and so these Muslim jihadists are wrong in what they are doing, of course they are going to say their false god allah is commanding them but I seriously highly doubt that because a false god will always be a false god and false gods can't command anybody to do anything simply because they don't exist. There is only one true God, and He is the Christian God, the Triune God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

 

Your question borders on the incoherency plateau. It just plainly doesn't make sense. It's illogical so in essence it is not a tough question just an illogical one.

Your question is essentially saying God with His divine power is giving someone pride to believe they can compellingly represent the faith but at the same time God knows the person is not skillful enough to do that but still He gives them the pride to believe they can compellingly represent the faith...lol

You need to leave God out of the question and so re-word it again and ask your question to make it border on the coherent plateau...lol

Always remember God does not influence us to do things, we have free will, He does not interfere with our free will choices, if He did we would be his robots/puppets and we would do His will and that would mean He would make sure we were skillful enough to represent the faith.

By the way how would you define skill pertaining to Scripture? For example if a particular Christian denomination interprets Scripture slightly different from another denomination which denomination would be considered more skillful than the other? Who is to say? Of course those denominations would each claim they are more skillful than the other but does that settle anything?...absolutely not!

Lastly, I know one thing, you have definitely lost your skill in interpreting Scripture correctly. The Exodus story proves my point where you insist that God interfered with Pharaoh's free will by hardening his heart. Obviously you have grossly misinterpreted the entire passage.

If God had interfered with Pharaoh's free will He would have made Pharaoh do the right thing, not the wrong thing by sinning and being stubborn. Always remember God is holy thus He does not sin nor does He influences others to sin by interfering with their free will.

Weren't you taught all that in ordained ministry 101?

 

This group of words you posted really makes me chuckle...."skill in interpreting Scripture correctly."

The fact that anyone has to..."INTERPRET SCRIPTURE"....shows me just how INSANE some people have become and how ridiculous it is for an entire Religious Dogma to have been created specific to being able to figure out what the HELL some words mean that are written as a Religious Text when the actual validity of such words is questionable beyond belief.

AboveAlpha

 

Even in Communist Russia Christianity was practised. To be a communist does not mean you cannot be religious.

I don't often quote from the web but this is the simplest way in this case.

In the Marxist-Leninist interpretation of Marxist theory, developed primarily by Russian revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, religion is seen as retarding human development, and socialist states that follow a Marxist-Leninist variant are atheistic and explicitly antireligious. Due to this, a number of Marxist-Leninst governments in the twentieth century, such as the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China, implemented rules introducing state atheism. However, several religious communist groups exist, and Christian communism was important in the early development of communism.

 

No.
I was taught to be honest when engaging scripture.

 

Try again....

WanRen, if you had been a Hebrew at the time of the war with the Amalekites....would you have killed Amalekite children and babies?....Yes or No?"

 

If he wouldn't have... I'll bet he would have at least been sharpening the swords for every one else!!

 

You've twisted my words AGAIN. You are the most dishonest poster I have 'met'.

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The fact that God supposedly mentions the Amalekites to Abraham supposedly means that they were known, according to the Bible. This is what is wrong with Mitts argument, and what I have said to him before without reply.
In 600 years from Abraham no-one went to convert the Amalekites. From the time of Abraham until after the Exodus the Hebrews were probably not even known outside of their own tribe. They were, according to the Bible, slaves in Egypt. So why should they be a force to be afraid of.

The Amalekites simply took advantage of these people in the desert thinking they were 'easy meat' for loot and supplies.

 

The command in question is Gods command not to punish children for the sins of their parents. The Amalekite men killed some Israelites. The Israelites killed a bunch of people too.

This does not make the babies of the Amalekites evil. God is violating the his own command by punishing babies for the sins of the parents.

Why is God contradicting his own command ?

 

How did the babies - "do it to themselves" .

So what are you saying here ? All we need to do is label some person evil and it is ok to kill their wife, children and babies as well ?

This is what the Jihadists believe using the same logic as you do.

 

So the best solution for a group of people who are "evil" as defined by WanRen or "the Bible" is to kill them all.

The Church was torturing and killing people a few centuries ago. They killed these people because they disagreed with them. Anyone who disagreed with the church was considered "EVIL", controlled by Satan, and so on.

Clearly you agree with the argument of the Church. Extremist Islamic folk agree with you as well.

 

Today is no different. There are evil people - people who do not worship your God, just like back then.

Your belief is exactly how Islamic extremists turn people into terrorists.( If people are evil, as defined by some Book, then killing that person is justified- even if they are babies because somehow the evil of the parents has contaminated the child)

You say the Amalekites had total disregard for the lives of innocent babies but, you are the same.

Your solution for people you do not like (claiming they are evil in some way) is to not only kill those people but kill their babies as well. Your reasoning is that these babies will be better off with God.

 

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Let's look at Joshua 2. v 17. Rahab's house was part of the wall of Jericho. So either Rahab was a dwarf or a contortionist. Excavations tell us that the walls were about 5 feet thick. Allowing a foot for each wall of the house she would have about 3 feet of space.
It's unlikely the city walls were even standing at Joshuas time anyway. And when the went on to Ai, they 'conquered' city ruins 1000 years old.

 

He HAS to say "Yes". How can he say "No"?

He can't have any moral qualms about doing it...since he's "explained" to us many times now how killing the Amalekite childrena and babies was "holy and righteous". And to refuse to kill them...would mean refusing a command from GOD!

Even if he ignores the question....he's disproving his own assertions about the "morality" of 1 Samuel 15:3, by being too embarrassed to "stand up for God and the Bible".

 

We have been focusing on the Amalekites. A group you claim to be evil. Lets look at another group and see what evil they do and see if it is worthy of mass slaughter of whole towns including women and children.

So what is the Evil of King Sihon ? He does not want the Israelites passing through his territory. The reason for this is because God had made him stubborn.

So here, the evil that Sihon did was because of God.

What happens next - The Israelites defeat Sihon's army. Rather than pass through the land and get to the promised land, they go into all the towns and kill everyone.

These are evil acts committed by evil people. The evil people are the Israelites. The one who instigated this evil was God.

God's law states that children should not be punished for the sins of their parents.

Here we have mass slaughter of children because the King refused to let Israel on his territory because God had made him stubborn.

Here we have mass slaughter of children because of what God did.