Part 14 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Mitt Ryan

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    Part 14 is a continuation of Post your tough questions pertaining to God/Jesus/Holy Bible and I will do my best to clarify and make sense of it to those who are unaware...I still have questions unanswered in Part 5, 6, 7, 8 , 9,10, 11, 12 & 13.
    Also I might answer questions that are on other members threads and so this will keep me real busy with the many questions that I will answer from my point of view/perspective keeping in line with Scripture.

    I don't want my intentions to come across as converting you or whatever lol... but rather clear up things etc... so ask away.
     
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    Scripture tells us, " But Noah found favor with the Lord.
    The Story of Noah
    This is the account of Noah and his family. Noah was a righteous man, the only blameless person living on earth at the time, and he walked in close fellowship with God."---Genesis 6:8-9 NLT
     
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    The Immaculate Conception is a doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church in regards to Mary, Jesus’ mother. An official statement of the doctrine reads, “The blessed Virgin Mary to have been, from the first instant of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of Almighty God, in view of the merits of Christ Jesus the Savior of Mankind, preserved free from all stain of original sin.” Essentially, the Immaculate Conception is the belief that Mary was protected from original sin, that Mary did not have a sin nature, and was, in fact, sinless.

    The problem with the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception is that it is not taught in the Bible. The Bible nowhere describes Mary as anything but an ordinary human female whom God chose to be the mother of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/immaculate-conception.html#ixzz2viikIN5R
     
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    Sorry but you haven't proven the Bible is errant. What you believe to be errant, there is always a rational logical explanation as to why you misinterpreted whatever you misinterpreted to make you falsely believe that the Bible is errant.

    Again, Wan and I must have told you non-believers a million times before, the Bible is the infallible Word of God, therefore it has no errors.
     
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    Of course I have. Just because you contradict yourself in blind hypocrisy does not mean you have refuted the logic presented to you.

    Your beliefs are nonsensical enough to make a young child giggle.

    You still have not explained your contradictory claims "God created everything that exists" and "Satan exists but was not created by God"
     
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    Standing up on a soapbox and repeating a claim over and over again does not make that claim true.

    Prove that your claim is true.
     
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    You have TOLD us. You haven't been able to show us.
    Just saying it has no weight, as your defense of the bible tends toward the absurd in the extreme. Your words lack any credibility.
    The business of apologetics is the defense of the indefensible and the sheer volume of the rationally tortured arguments presented in the field are the best evidence that the bible is hopelessly flawed. The best Christians understand this and apply discernment to the text. The worst are prisoners of it.
     
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    Is all the punctuation in the Bible inerrant?


    Every comma, period, etc. exactly as God "inspired" the writers to write down?
     
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    So clear up the question of "god died, god can't die, god died, god can't die....that your buddy supports....
     
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    And because god has 100% knowledge of everything it becomes clear to all that god knew his creation would go awry and that he would get to fix it by killing a bunch of people for the first few thousand years. Then he would just kill his son to fix it all and give salvation to all who believe that jesus died for them... of course this would not include Wrong Ren as he has made it very clear that jesus/god can't die. So I guess since Wrong Ren doesn't believe in gods dieing then he will be burning in hell for all eternity with the rest of us unbelievers.
     
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    God knew His creation will be good God gave us the free will and with that He allows the events to take shape as it is. Man will act, transgress, be aggressive and chose between good and evil and God only reacts to man's actions. God did not kill His only Son Jesus Christ man did and they are still trying and attempting hard to kill the Son of God and God as prove of your posting. All believers and none believer will be judge at the end of time accordingly by God.
     
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    Not only did I find out the she was born without stain, but actually lived her entire life sinless. Your good pschyo buddy WR filled me in on that tid bit.
    So did jesus' mother need to be born without sin and live sinless for jesus to be, jesus the christ?
     
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    So, now your claim is God is not omniscient? For the doomed folks who need a definition, 'all knowing'?
    Either God created us knowing we'd sin, omniscient. Or created us as you stated and we fooled him, not omniscient.
     
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    WarRen post from part 13.


    =trevorw2539;1063685500]Again you're talking a load of rubbish. If you believe the Bible the Hebrews left Egypt with 600,000 men bearing arms. The Amalekites and all the other tribes of Canaan probably couldn't muster half that many combined. 2 centuries later Saul, with 210,000 men, slaughtered the Amalekites.
    If the Hebrews had 600,000 strong men bearing weapons they need not fled Egypt.

    In the great battle between Egypt and the Hittite empire at Kadesh the Hittite army numbered around 20,000 men and the Egyptian army numbered between 23,000 and 50,000 men. This ended in more or less a stalemate and a treaty was signed between the two. Of course the Hebrews would not have been able to stand up against either of these. They were masters of chariot warfare and Israel had no chariots of any kind until much later.
    And this confirm that the Hebrews had no weapons, no fighting expereince or substantial weapons to defend and win wars against Egypt or the Amalekites who were all well arm and seasoned soldiers.

    As for Israel not being the aggressors, are you not familiar with the actions of David when he supposedly 'extended his kingdom'? The nations and city states he conquered?
    David and his conquest came decades later after the Jews learn how to fight like mighty warriors not during their captivity in Egypt or when they left Egypt. How come you guys like to jump from one story to the other? Just like how you guys jump from Genesis 6 to the Amalekite wars.

    Your Bible knowledge is sadly lacking. Sorry I should say your general knowledge is sadly lacking.
    I am sure your's is well behind to elementary and full of assumptions.

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    Abraham Lincoln: In regard to this Great Book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was communicated through this book. But for it we could not know right from wrong. All things most desirable for man's welfare, here and hereafter, are t

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    It's strange that Moses and Joshua's 'unarmed' men defeated the Amalekites just after leaving Egypt. No match for the seasoned Amalekite soldiers?
    The Kenites travelled with the Hebrews and they were noted metal workers, useful for making weapons. The Midianites and Kenites may have been the same people, or closely associated. Study the Bible and you'll see why.

    This confirms nothing The Amalekites had no chariots as far as we are aware. Few nations did. Egypt, Hittites and Philistines did.

    How is it you are unable to see the point I made quite simply. It had nothing to do with the prowess of David's soldiers but everything to do with David being the aggressor. If you understand that.

    I really despair at your lack of comprehension.
     
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    So God didn't want Jesus to be killed?
     
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    Was is God's plan to send Jesus to die for the sins of mankind? Man only did what God wanted man to do.
    If you want your son dead, if you have eaten him yet, and you get your wife to do it for you, are you not responsible?
     
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    The "logic" is almost so fantastical as to stagger the imagination.

    1. "God wanted Jesus to die to save Mankind".

    2. "But killing Jesus was Man's fault, not God's fault."

    3. "But God supported Jesus being killed, to fulfill His Plan."

    4. "Doubting God in blog posts is like killing Jesus".

    So by that "logic"....posts that doubt God on a blog?....are in accordance with God's plan, right? I mean, He wanted Jesus to be "killed"....so first the Romans obeyed God's plan....and now agnostics and atheists are obeying God's plan today?
     
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    What do you mean if possible and of course it is verified? What is possible? What is verified?

    The Bible is not wrong, has not been translated wrong but yes it has been interpreted wrong mainly by non-believers such as yourself.

    When you don't believe in something that's written down in a book, it's only natural that you're going to be critical of the book, not wanting to understand the book, forming interpretations that are not correct with the main purpose being to discredit the book....you can take that to the bank!
     
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    So good that god would kill all but 8 of them in a flood.. because god just loved them all that much.


    Unless you are willing to call your buddy Mitt a liar then you must admit what Mitt did and that is...
    And since god knows everything he knew his creation would not live up to his standards and this he would use as a reason to kill millions and send them to burn for all eternity in his creation hell because he loves them so much.


    Now you are lying again. And we know you are lying because you have made it very clear that god/jesus can't die. As you have made it clear jesus/god didn't and can't die there can not be any salvation because no sacrifice was made.
     
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    So why are there hundreds of variations and different translations? Can they all say something different and still be right? That would be some serious magic.
     
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    The Bible has errors. I, and others, have pointed some of these out to you. They are not interpretation. They are factual. Some agreed by many Christians who are just as sincere as you. You just refuse to accept them.
     
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    Obviously you misinterpreted what WR said. In his statement, notice he doesn't say that the world need to be repopulated by Noah. He never made that statement.

    If he specifically had said, "The world need to be repopulated by Noah, who found grace with God." Then and only then WR would have been wrong, but being the case he never made that statement it is rather obvious you misinterpreted him.

    Furthermore, it's obvious that you knew Noah had 3 sons and you also knew they each had wives. You knew there were only 8 human beings on that ark that Noah built. I recall in previous quotes by you, you mentioned these 8 people.

    Anyway common sense would tell you the repopulating would have come from Noah's sons and their wives. Because the Bible never mentions Noah having more children but it does mention the children of Noah's sons.

    But you just wanted to give WR a hard time with his statement...isn't that the truth? If that isn't it then you misinterpreted him. Sorry but you can't win here...lol
     
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    Yes, and to many many people, it is called 'COMMOM SENSE'. Now if one doesn't have any, they think they know how to interpret the bible accurately in spite of most everyone saying you have it wrong. Smart folks will try to verify what is correct and misinterpreted and not be blind and/or ignorant.
    When one is blind and/or ignorant, they believe whatever someone has told them and not bother to check things out. Making those types look foolish.
    This group of threads has confirmed my suspicion that the bible is not what I was taught. I thank you deeeeeply for showing me that. For I used to think just like you. Well not quite, I always had questions and I got the same BS answers you've been spreading with absolutely no sense and backtracking and we don't know that and God knows all and it is beyond our human understanding.

    What do you mean the bible is not translated wrong? You have told us all here the bible you use as a source is out of print, because it contained errors. You wouldn't lie to us, would you?
     
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    Wrong Wren most certainly did state, moses lived 950 yrs because the world needed to be repopulated. But I'm not going back to a years worth of thread to find it. You'll have to take my credible word for it.
     
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    Huh? What are you doing here...babbling to yourself or what?
     
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