Part 2 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. danielpalos

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    Why is the Right, which may lay some claim to Religion, so willing to deny and disparage Intelligent Design "theory" by condoning a War on Drugs which includes seed bearing plants?

    Is it no longer true that a Creator proclaimed seed bearing plants Good and not Bad? Why should anyone confide in the sincerity of "original sinners" claiming they are Bad and not Good, with a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge?
     
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    I feel somewhat ignored here.
     
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    would make sense that he could just snap his fingers and all the bad people just disappear rather then drowning every living thing but one boatfull

    I think what happened is people saw the rainbow and then made a story of how the rainbow came to be, kinda like the story of a pot of gold at the end of it


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    Seed bearing plants were good, for food, only in the time before humans became sinners. From the time that humans became sinners, many seed-bearing plants came into existence that are toxic or deadly if consumed in any way.

    Most of your alcohol beverages are made from seed bearing plants as we know. Beer is made from barley, which is a seed, wine is made from grapes, which have seeds, whiskey is made from various grains like rye which is seed.

    But abuse of alcohol, which is made from see bearing plants, is condemned in the Bible, not because of the alcohol itself is evil, but because drunkenness from anything is evil. People who get "stoned" on pot or anything else, unless they repent, are making their character unfit for salvation.

    We see a lot of people in society wrecking their lives and others around them because of these abuses and so we see that seed bearing plants are not entirely good anymore. When we abuse the use of them it can have bad or even deadly consequences.
     
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    Constantine and his pagan priest converted to Christianity and made the Bible public to all after they were convince that the Christian God is the One and True God.

    God commanded Moses to write down His words so that men will not forget. And the 12 Apostles continue that tradition that the Catholic church inherited. If only you will read the Bible you will stop to lying about the Bible or me that I make things up as long as you are ignorant of the Bible and his bend on destroying God nothing will make you understand that is why we have heaven and hell, good and evil, I am glad that I am on the side of God.
     
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    I follow Christianity while you are still stuck in paganism such as worshipping stone or stones.
     
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    The Jews criteria for the messiah is one that will conquer the whole world literally not metaphoric or spiritually with the nation of Israel ruling the world.
    Muslim criteria for their messiah is the destruction of Christ the coming of the anti Christ.

    Christianity conform with Judaism except their disbelief of Jesus Christ.
    Islam conform with none it has created its own biblical history by giving all the Isaac people a different role, Muslims worship not the God of Isaac the son that Abraham offer to God, the son that God promise the promise land the son that was baptise by God with the name Israel. Muslims follow the god of Ishmael. Muslims like to use the name of Abraham and will claim that they recognize Jesus in order to confuse and distort Christians and Muslims. Majority of people converted to Islam because they thought they were worshipping the God of Abraham.
     
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    Floods can cleanse the earth fully and better than an earthquake.
    The animals have no human souls they were victims of collateral damage of human sins. Their destruction all rest on human shoulders up to now we have seen how humans have wipe out animal species.
    God gave everyone a chance, and they laugh at Him those innocent who died their souls will be allow to enter heaven. It is more evil not to do anything if God had allowed the corruption of the earth go unchecked the result of not doing anything to stop it will be much worse, evil will prosper and the whole world will be engulf on evil.
    That is why God send Jesus Christ in order to redeem all those innocent souls.
     
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    IMO - spreading lies and false hoods is far more dangerous than merely asking questions. Stop the lying, please!!!
     
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    So, IYO, todays bible, which every christian follows is false? As most of christianity follows constanties bible.
    God commanded moses, 5 books.
    12 apostles, 2000 yrs or so later. That is the foundation of the belief?
    Give me a little more. please.

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    So, IYO, todays bible, which every christian follows is false? As most of christianity follows constanties bible.
    God commanded moses, 5 books.
    12 apostles, 2000 yrs or so later. That is the foundation of the belief?
    Give me a little more. please.
     
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    R U saying the world is only conquered (A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes ) and not literally?
     
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    That didnt really answer my question.
     
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    I don't mind being more "euphoric" when doing my chores.
     
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    Today's Bible contains the books of Moses and the Apostles, the Apostles that continue the commandment of God to Moses to write His words down. The Constantine bible if there is one is the bible of the atheist and pagans that they have been trying to insert to the Christian Bible with all kinds of distortion and lies one of the bible is the Koran author by Mohammed.

    As I have said today's Bible is the Bible of God, God that commanded Moses to write and that commandment was continue by the Apostles. The Constantine bible is the bible that people such as you are using full of distortion, falsehood and lies in fact Constantine never created a Bible his name is being use negatively by the anti Christ people because Constantine was once a pagan and he tried to stop other anti Christ (heretical Christians) from destroying the true Christianity.

    If you have one of those constantine bible maybe you can tell me where I can buy one I like to read for my reference and research purposes.

    Then you should stop and start accepting the truth.

    I am saying that the Pharisees literally believe that their messiah will lead them to conquer the world like really conquer the world like the Roman Empire they want an Israel Empire that is why they could not accept Jesus Christ because Jesus was talking about the spiritual world.
     
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    Why is the Right, so unwilling or unable to be moral enough to bear true witness to our own laws, simply for the sake of morals?
     
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    What makes you think Heaven is the final resting place? This must be the 100th time I've asked and have not seen any reply.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dairyair:

    Where did you get the 400 yrs was God waiting for the canaanite people to turn to the jewish God from those verses?

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    You claim you use to be a Christian but it appears you probably weren't paying attention to the sermons or skipped a lot of sunday masses or perhaps never attented sunday school for bible study...sheesh! No wonder you quit, it's because you weren't learning anything, and have no thorough understanding of God.

    If you read Genesis 15:13-21 very carefully you will see that God had patiently waited over 400 years until the Canaanites would be ripe for judgment, though this would mean Israel's enslavement in Egypt in the meantime.

    The Canaanites' sin were so repellent that God said, "Because the entire land has become defiled, I am punishing the people who live there.I will cause the land to vomit them out" ---Leviticus 18:25 NLT.

    The destruction was directed more at the Canaanite religion that at the Canaanite people. The judgment was not ethnically motivated. Besides dealing with national sins, God used the conquest of Canaan to create a religious historical context in which He could eventually introduce the Messiah to the world. This Messiah would bring salvation not only to Israel, but also to Israel's enemies, including Canaan (Psalm 87:4-6; Mark 7:25-30).

    Like I mentioned above God gave the Canaanite people more than sufficient time to repent of their evil ways, over 400 years. They were aware of God's power and could have repented but they continued their rebellion against God until the bitter end.

    By the Israelite attack on Canaan, God accomplished two things. First, He brought righteous judgment on the deserving Canaanites — a kind of corporate capital punishment. God directed this destruction, however, less against Canaanite persons as it was against Canaanite religion (Deuteronomy 7:3–5; 12:2,3; cp. Exodus 34:12,13).

    The Canaanite gods/goddesses engaged in all kinds of sexual acts including incest and bestiality. Not surprisingly, worshipers of these deities engaged in ritual prostitution — not to mention infant sacrifice and other deviant acts.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorn Captain:

    Why did God think it was "okay" for a man to sell his children into slavery?

    "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do."---Exodus 21:7
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    While you refer to a part of a rule regulating slavery, one needs to investigate why slavery existed. The slavery that existed back then was vastly different from how we view it today. The most common cause was what we would call "bankruptcy" when someone overextended his credit and could not pay it off.

    They would sell off possessions and if that wasn't enough then members of the family and the person himself would be put into slavery to pay off the debt. Under the Israelite's system they could not be held in slavery for more than seven years. The reason family members were involved is because they benefited from the money loaned, so they had to help pay off the debt.

    When we look back at the slavery that was carried out in early America we see how bad it was because it wasn't connected to what a person did or did not do.

    They just snatched up defenseless African people and shipped them to America against their will and forced them into slavery. There were no limits or reasonable terms for ending a person's period of slavery. That was just a shameful past in American history.
     
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    Sorry this question must have got lost with so many other questions.
    Heaven or hell is the final resting place because of the following reason:
    1. God said so, I know you will not believe that because you don't believe in God
    2. Scientist do believe there is life after death that humans have souls how they know? They base it on their scientific logic that what makes humans different from other animals is the presence of a soul that allows us to think with reason always seeking knowledge and truth others seek lies in order to control others.
    3. If Heaven or hell is not the ultimate resting place then humans will not be asking or seeking about it would they.
    4. Heaven and hell makes no sense for dictators and tyrants and this is one reason why people believe Heaven is the final resting place for good people and hell for evil people.

    The bottom line I believe Heaven is the final resting place for people who are good because I believe being good is worth it but most of all Jesus Christ and all the Apostles and Saints have followed His lead they all live a holy, unselfish life they gave and help others without expecting any material wealth in return they willingly died for others and they died or were killed because they preach peace, love and equality base on what God has reveal to them that they reveal and share to us so that we may not be ignorant and understand that the final resting place is either heaven or hell; do good then it will be heaven do evil then it will be hell.
     
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    Excellent responds :thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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    Oh goody, a chance to stick my big nose in. Remember, you asked for an answer brother.

    I believe that Heaven is the final resting place because God said it is. I believe what God says cuz He proved his Word is the truth through Bible Prophecy. God said certain things would happen, hundereds and thousands of years and they happened EXACTLY as He said they would. Can YOU do that?
     
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    Actually I did not say that at all.

    Either you totally misunderstood, or you are, yet again, employing faslehoods as a means to promote your cause, such as it may be.
     
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