Part 2 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Since Christ is The Truth, the ideal, then he oersonifies the image of what actually is factual reality.
The father of Truth is the ever unfolding Realitythat sires it in its wake.

This means God is not one, he has the son we call Truth.
Hence Islam is as wrong as the jews to insist that God is one.

 

Encyclopaedia wrote about the historical Jesus, Quran wrote about the Jesus that was crucified by the Jews, Jewish history wrote a man name Jesus of Nazareth was crucified because of blasphemy and most of all the Bible that wrote about all of those and the Resurrection.

 

The Jonestaown and al the likes are cults they are false Christian that is why they failed no miracles, no Holy Spirit and most of all no Divines just evil cults. They believe there is something supernatural with Jesus because Jesus did perform those miracles and yet they could not disprove it. Jesus created so much attention unlike any other prophets true or false that came before him that the Pharisees really become concern that they had Jesus put to death because Jesus was too much of a true God.

Yes, the contention is Jesus Christ God or not, not whether Jesus existed or not.

scientist and historians are debating because it is confirm the only thing that needs to be confirm is Jesus God or not?

Well, it definitely is not Satan as I have pointed out Satan would have done the opposite of what Jesus Christ have done; example raise an army of men and give them that supernatural mind to kill and conquer, offer and give them wealth and sexual pleasure, unlimited wine and food.

True, no way the tribes in Central America or in areas far away from Galilee could learn about the True One God that is why they created their own many gods and that is why God task the 12 Apostles to reach out to all humans including those from the Amazons.

Yes it can because God many times reveal Himself first to selected prophets and finally the ultimate revelation was when He become Jesus Christ to reveal Himself to us all. God gave us many chances at the end of the day it is up to us.

Supernatural = of, pertaining to, or being above or beyond what is natural; unexplainable by natural law or phenomena; abnormal.

God is beyond supernatural. God is both natural and supernatural.

 

Reading this thread made me remember that there are a whole lot of terminally insane people in the world.

 

Lewis Carroll wrote Alice in Wonderland to was she real.

600 years after the fact hows that evidence of an historical character?

Which Jewish History. Remember the Jews did not accept this made up character as a messiah. Nazareth did not exist in the 1st Century, the Bible is after the fact and not history.

 

I haven't been following your last thread, but I saw it had many posts. So I assume for the most part it went well?

I think a thread like this for Christianity is long overdue here.

Good job.

Salam.

 

Quote Originally Posted by taikoo:

There was no first bird, or first woodpecker. There was a progression of forms leading up to them, and each step along the way was entirely capable of living its life equipped as it was for its circumstances.
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That's a debatable theory. Do you have any evidence to back your theory up? In this progression of forms for the bird what was the first form it had? Do you know exactly how it looked in physical appearance? How many different progression of forms did this bird have in this evolutionary process before it finally became the bird as we know today?

If you can't answer any of these questions with concrete evidences why do you promote such a theory based on imaginary thoughts or speculations?

When we Christians give evidence of the life, the ministry of His teachings, the miraculous miracles He performed, the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ based on first-hand witnesses' accounts by their Gospels they wrote in the New Testament of the Holy Bible why isn't it more credible for you to believe in Jesus than your theory which is not based on first-hand witness accounts but is primarily based on imaginary thoughts or speculations?

I am puzzled as to why someone would find a theory more credible than first-hand witnesses' accounts?

 

Quote Originally Posted by FreshAir:

truth is... one can believe in God without believing in the bible
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Sorry that isn't true for a Christian. The Holy Bible is the Word of God. If we don't believe in the bible then how can we believe in God?

 

Quote Originally Posted by robini123:

Why are so many Christians so judgmental against non Christians when the Bible has passages like Matthew 7 that rail against judgment. Other verses say "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone" "love thy neighbor as yourself"
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There are approx. 2-3 billion practicing Christians in the world. I suppose some do not follow Scripture to the tee but I wouldn't go as far as to say the majority do not.

 

You couldn't be more wrong. christians, jews, and muslims, all have the God of abraham. How they view God may be different but he is the same. Make no mistake about it.

 

You don't understand how the bible was created, do you? Or when the books were written. Very few 1st hand witness accounts.

 

Nope, sorry, you are wrong. If I was to change religions and start believing like the muslims and jews I won't be saved anymore. You can only be saved when you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior otherwise if you don't you will not be saved, therefore we Christians believe in the Christian God...understand?

 

A muslim is every bit as saved as a christian. Ask one.

 

Of course they are going to say they are saved but in our view (Christians) they will not be saved because they are not accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord Savior.

 

Why would I care on how a bunch of atheist are going to vote? I already know it won't be favorable, it will all be biased. The main thing is how I feel and like I said in my humble opinion I feel I have done a good job.

 

That is true that is why Jesus Christ tried his best to put some sanity to the world and they have him crucified. The crucifixion has not stop up to now.

 

I have had some serious questions. I don't consider my self an atheist. I was a strong christian at one point. Now more agnostic.
This thread has not brought me any closer to christianity again. If anything, based on answers, not just yours, it moves me opposite christianity.
Most of your answers are what you believe, no real meat behind them. No verses to back up your claims.

Heck, I've asked one of the simpliest questions, several times, even started a thread. Where is eternal life (show proof) and will we remember (show proof).

To the remembering question you said yes. Even though I've shown proof from the bible, we will not.
That makes your credibility questionable.

 

Christians are not afraid to answer tough questions because Christianity is the True religion of God unlike Islam all they have are excuses and excuses in defending terrorism.

 

An atheist such as yourself is telling a Christian such as myself that I don't understand the Holy Bible...wow! that is so ludicrous!...lol

 

Yes, the Christian God is the True Almighty God. The Muslim god is a man made god created by Mohammed.

http://www.angelfire.com/pa/greywlf/trinity.html

Yes, The Father, Son and Holy Ghost, nothing is impossible to God.
Just like you, you can be a father, carpenter and gay but still the same one you; three in one.

Muslims plagiarise Christianity.

 

OK, so now all your credibility is lost.

 

So if you feel that way why do you continue to come to this thread? There are other threads on this forum why come to this one and attack my credibility?

I did mention my intentions were not to convert anyone so I could care less if I'm not bringing you back. Nobody really can convert anyone, it is really an individual's choice. You can't let someone be an obstacle for you.

You might have been a Christian once before but now that you say you don't believe anymore what compels you to hang around asking questions? Are you still not sure if you made the right decision?

 

What's the difference? Christianity plagerized Paganism so what makes it any different?

 

Yes! First of all, we have the basic mechanism of evolution: descent with modification + natural selection + time = change. Over millions of years, it's a trivial matter for natural selection and evolution to cause serious morphological changes to a population. And no, there is effectively no difference save for "length of time active" between microevolution and macroevolution; macroevolution is nothing more than "a lot of microevolution over a geologic timescale".

Second of all, knowing this, we have the fossil remains of numerous species, forming a clearly defined, easily-dated chain of ancestry. Given what we already know about natural selection and descent with reproduction, it only makes sense that these fossils were ancestors of existing species. Given this, we can construct a historical phylogeny around these fossils and their descendants. What we can also do is check the genetic markers of species that appear close to each other in this phylogeny to make sure that we're not off-base. There is a veritable mountain of research and evidence that has gone into crafting the modern phylogeny and evolutionary synthesis. This is just an incredibly basic crash course, explaining in general some of the ways we know how the evolutionary prehistory worked.

Nope, and none of this is relevant. We can do basic model reconstructions based on the fossils found and various other indicators (such as climate, location, cohabitant species, etc.) but we don't know what it looked like. What I can tell you is this: the number of "progression of forms" that this bird had was one per generation. Because evolution and gene mutation is an ongoing process, each generation is slightly different from the last. And the first form? Well, currently it seems that the "first form" was a very simple single-celled organism near the conception of the earth. We can't necessarily track it all the way back with fossils, but we can go pretty (*)(*)(*)(*) far. But of course, none of this matters, and I fail to see why you think it should.

Because what we are answering are the parts that aren't speculation.

I'm pretty sure I've explained to you how incredibly far your bible is from a "first-hand witnesses' accounts". Just for reference:

Because the "theory" is backed by mountains of evidence, explains why we see what we see in pretty much all of biology perfectly, and does so with a massive amount of explanatory and predictive power. To quote the Christian Theodosius Dobzhansky: "Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution". Meanwhile, your "first-hand accounts" are third-hand at best by the time they get to you, thousands of years old, completely unverifiable, and very likely have been modified to suit the needs of those who used them. And then they're still witness accounts. We get screwy, paranormal witness accounts all the time, and 99.999% of the time it's because those involved were either running a hoax, or drunk out of their minds, or some combination of the two. If you don't understand why the scientific evidence for evolution doesn't trump your "testimony", then you are suffering from a basic failure of understanding - either about how proof works, or how well evolution has been demonstrated.