Part 25 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

The more we learn through neuroscience about how our brain works, the less likely it seems that we actually have a soul, and the more likely it seems that we are really just glorified apes, who can count.

 

We are not all that different from Apes. 99% of our genetic code is the same. And most the technology around us rests on the shoulders of a handful of individuals. We are only a few serendipitous inventions away from throwing feces at each other.

 

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The soul according to your Church is '"the innermost aspect of humans, that which is of greatest value in them, that by which they are most especially in God's image: 'soul' signifies the spiritual principle in man".[5

It has nothing to do with the body. It is incorporeal.

If I remember St Thomas Aquinas said that all creatures had souls, but only human were immortal.

 

Loved the thought. And you're right.

 

Obviously your second sentence is completely false, you over exaggerated, your whole purpose was just to ridicule him on some minor grammatical errors.

Since you were able to correct his grammatical errors, and was able to understand what he was saying then it goes to say it was not exactly completely unintelligible.

I was able to understand what he was saying even though I could see the grammatical errors myself and so despite the errors, what he said wasn't completely unintelligible.

If he had said something like this:

"You can always anything, that is part of so chooses your will free, you can even it disbelieve and something that insist that exist does not contradiction direct exist to what real is, to you it is call a denial of state."

Then it would be completely unintelligible.

 

I was wondering the same. But as per usual. It was a good laugh.

 

On the contrary the more science and medicine advances the more they are learning about existence of soul. Humans have the special soul that gives us the unique intelligence separating us from apes in fact apes do not even know that humans have classified them and called them gorillas, chimps, monkeys or apes.

 

Try telling that to the apes the chimps, gorillas, orangutan or monkeys I am sure if they have human intelligence they'll tell you they are are not humans in fact they might claim their superior than us that is why they hate being caged, they hate being use as experimental creature

 

The church is very clear regarding the existence of souls especially the human soul.

http://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/soul

Are you saying that you do not believe in the existence of the soul?

 

Want to advocate for Hominidae rights?

 

Everything you post is based on the Sacred Books. Sacred books which are full of errors, some of which you have been told but refuse to acknowledge.
So how can we know what is correct and what is false?

I don't know whether there is a soul or not. Perhaps one day science will have evidence for it. But we still don't know what we're looking for, despite religious beliefs. .

 

You've quoted the Catholic interpretation of 'soul'.

There are two views of the soul. The holistic and dualistic views.

The Old Testament view is the holistic view - that man is a complete being. That man became 'a living soul' - when God breathed life into him he was completely alive. 'Souls' is almost always used as people or person.
The Hellenic view of much later time is that man is 'dualistic'. He has both life and a soul.

So which is right?

It depends on what you want to believe. There is far much more to it than that, but that is the essential. If you want to study it WITH AN OPEN MIND - please do.

 

Actually, I advocate for God. The universe was not pre-existing in chaos there was nothing everything was void.
Genesis 1:
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Then God created every creature according to their own kind and God created man to take charge be responsible to expand His creation on all the things God created.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

 

The Sacred Books gave us an insight into many things in this case the soul. If there is any errors it was from some individuals no matter how much truth there is there will always be someone that will insist that there is errors and this is very true as Dwight Eisenhower has demonstrated:
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
― Dwight D. Eisenhower

Before Christianity early philosophers have been researching about the soul and they all agree it exist they just have different understanding of it.
http://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/soul

It would be Christ that would clearly demonstrate that human soul exist.

We know that Christian presentation or study of the human Soul is the correct one based on Jesus Christ and the continue development of humanity.

http://www.catholic.com/blog/tim-staples/seven-proofs-for-the-natural-immortality-of-the-human-soul

 

You do. Science doesn't.

Before Christianity early philosophers have been researching about the soul and they all agree it exist they just have different understanding of it.


No they don't, but I'm not even going to attempt try to explain to you. You wouldn't understand.


Most modern psychologists have a term 'Pysche' - conscious personality. We've past the old understanding and now have greater understanding of the body and mind that 'god' has given us.

Your indoctrination and complete belief in the Christian faith and the Bible would leave us still in the dark ages.

 

“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
― Dwight D. Eisenhower

It's all recorded science and philosophy has made extensive study and research about the soul since the time of Plato and the conclusion is that there exist a soul.

History has already been written that Christianity brought civilization out of the dark ages not due to indoctrination but educataion. Maybe you are confuse with Islam that is still under the dark ages?

 

Muslims had street lights and garbage pick up when our European ancestors were still painting themselves blue.

 

Believe what you will about the soul. I can't be bothered going through 3000 years with you.

As to confusion I think you are confusing mans natural progress after being freed from Christianity's restrictions.

 

Christianity put civilization into the dark ages and not the reverse. Knowledge an literacy declined because the Church viewed such things as a threat.

The Church was more interested in burning libraries, closing schools of philosophy and persecuting and killing Jews, apostates and anyone else who disagreed with doctrine.

Christianity after Constantine was a plague on humanity. Over one thousand years of horror and atrocities.

But hey WR, don't let the facts get in the way of your dogma.

 

No, not at all.

It appears you're making up your own metaphor here.

That's right but only because King Asa cried out to God for help and God helped him defeat the large enemy force. So there goes your theory of a metaphor.

No such jumbling as far as we know occurred. The stories are all historical events therefore they are all independent of one another.

 

not really. neuroscience can now identify which parts of your brain control which things. There's a part of your brain that's responsible for emotion, for memory, for mood, etc. Every human function will eventually be dissected down to the individual biochemical reactions that are responsible for them. Human beings are just machines. Complex machines, but machines nonetheless. And machines do not have souls.

Science is already beginning to demonstrate that free will is a myth--that it doesn't really exist. Without free will, how can a soul even exist?

 

Zerah (U-Serak-On - Usarkon)) was an Egyptian Pharaoh, probably one of the Ethiopian Pharaohs. We know Usarkon II actually invaded Palestine. Was this the 'Zerah' who fought Asa. Forget all the exaggerated numbers. Forget the cry to God by Asa. Just take the bare facts. An Egyptian Army came with chariots against Judah, and were defeated. We are told Asa had 280,000 Benjaminites. How did that happen. That tribe and area bordered Judah on the north, but was ruled by the Israelite king, who I think was Ahab at that time.
Another thing. Benjamin was the smallest tribe, but the fiercest fighters. BUT 280,000 men? Judah, the largest and strongest tribe could only manage 300,000. Methinks someone couldn't count, or their quill slipped.
A million man army from Ethiopia. I think not. The sheer logistics of 1m men marching 1000 miles with horses and chariots. Even with raiding towns along the way - which the Egyptians would surely have objected to very strongly, they are unlikely to have been in a state to conquer anyone.
Someone is going to say What about people like Alexander the Great. He did it.
Well look at his tactics. His army never went over 40,000 men. Whenever he conquered a city he made an alliance with them to supply needed goods. He marched, where possible, along rivers to enable goods to move. He also set up what are called forward bases with goods from the countries/cities with which he had alliances.

The story of Asa may be true, but it is very exaggerated as are many events in the Bible. Like Noahs flood.

Sermon ended. I'm off to bed.

 

Yes Muslims have street lights and garbage pick up when the European ancestors were painting themselves blue, Vikings raiding and marauding Europe years later Muslims will turn their street lights off and forced their women to walk in the dark and their civilization will stay in the dark ages for centuries while Europe from painted blue faces from marauding Vikings to the most modern and advance civilization thanks to Christian education.

 

The existence of the soul has been proven long before the coming of Christ. I believe because of education.
There is no confusion everything is well documented and archived Christianity freed man from witchcraft to modern science, voodooism to modern medicine, cannibalism to human rights, tyranny to democracy and slavery to equality.

“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
― Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

I believe you are confuse with Christianity to Islam. Historical records and current events unfortunately or fortunately do not agree with you.

“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
― Dwight D. Eisenhower