Part 25 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget the zombies.... another favorite of the non-theists.
     
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    That's right.

    He was dead for only 3 days then He resurrected from the dead..did you miss the lesson of His resurrection?

    And yes He did die for mans' sins by shedding His innocent blood on the cross but rose from the dead on the 3rd day.

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said, "For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life."---John 36:16 NLT
     
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    What's the oldest celestial object in the cosmos (universe)?
     
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    The Bible is loaded with all kinds of fanciful creatures. It has talking serpents and donkeys, flying fiery serpents, giants, demons, angels with varying sets of wings, ghosts, a holy ghost, spirits, zombies, resurrected bones, a red-eyed guy who has a sword for a tongue, multi-eyed creatures that have six wings, locust with horse heads but have the faces of men with women's hair and lions' teeth and scorpion tails. Horses with the heads of lions and tails like serpents. There's the angel who has a rainbow on his head and a face like the sun with feet of fire. The red dragon with seven heads and ten horns is hard to miss. But don't confuse hit with the sea beast that also has seven heads with ten horns because that one looks like a leopard but it has feet like a bear's and the mouth of a lion and it talks! And don't forget the frogs that can perform magic tricks. There's a goat or lamb somewhere in there as well.
    http://www.bricktestament.com/revelation/heaven_revealed/rv05_06.html
     
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    The list of WR made up scripture is enough for a new Gospel. The Gospel of WR ! We have a true prophet in our midst.

    This prophet tells us how God managed to wipe out the earth and not kill any babies. Their parents ate them according to WR scripture. That's correct, "baby cannibalism".

    Now why God was not smart enough to realize that there was no need to destroy humanity as they had essentially destroyed themselves is a mystery WR has yet to reveal.

    Then we have the WR explanation for later on during the exodus period when God orders the killing of children and babies. In this case the Prophet tells us it was because these babies were evil. Baby killing in the name of evil is the new scripture. The prophet tells us these babies were evil on account of the sins of their parents.

    When the Prophet was asked why God issued a command stating that children are not to be punished for the sins of their parents if he was going to turn around and kill babies for the sins of their parents the Prophet claimed the Bible has no contradictions and that was that.

    The list is long and those are just a few. Then we have one of this Prophets clan who is also a Prophet in his own right. Incorp gets his interpretation of scripture directly from the "Big Dude" himself during his daily conversations with the Holy Spirit.

    When I first heard this I was excited. How often does one have a chance to get answers directly from God. I asked this other Prophet to tell me how Spectacled bears (native only to South America) made it all the way to the Ark and back home again.

    The answer was truly prophetic. "Beam me up Scottie" was the answer. Teleportation. I sensed this other Prophet was being sarcastic and so asked a few other questions but the Prophet would not respond.

    I asked how the Prophet knew his spirit guide was not a bad spirit if he would not ask this spirit substantive questions. Never did get much of an answer to that one.

    To the same "spectacled bear" question Mitt did no invoke "Magic" but stated that at the time of the Ark (2000-2300 BC according to the Bible timeline) all the continents were one. Yes.... you are understanding correctly Pangea existed roughly 4000 years ago.
     
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    I do think much about Satan nor to I make claims on his nature. Job tells us that Satan does not act outside of Gods will.

    What interests me is who it is that you get your information from. What denomination are you ?
     
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    I realize this is true of WR and we can trot out numerous examples. Did you have an example of anything gawd said to validate your claim ? or are you just demonizing the messenger ?
     
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    What was good about it. You have no clue whether or not Jesus or Elijah are still alive.
     
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    Where does it say in the Greek or Viking stories that Zeus or Odin never existed ? What a ridiculously poor argument.

    Of course those writing a story trying to convince people of the existence of "Abraham or Odysseus" are not going to stated "these folks never existed".

    Does the Lord of the Rings state that Gandolf does not exist ? Does this make Gandolf a real person.

    I see Incorp likes your logic or rather .. the absence of logic.

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    Clearly zombies (the dead coming back to life) are a favorite of Christians as well.

    Do you not believe in the dead coming back to life ? and Mitt ... feel free to chime in since you liked Incorp's post.
     
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    We can't. But if she was unmarried long before 21 she would have been a million to one rarity. She was espoused to Joseph. An arranged marriage. The parents of both families would have agreed to the union as soon as they realised Mary and Joseph were ready. I don't mean in today's terms.
    Mary would have spent her life as a child being taught by her mother how to manage a home and husband. Joseph, at the age of 13, would have been an adult and learning from his father a trade. They were far more advanced and mature than Western children of today. In any case the probability is that Joseph was some years older than Mary.
    Women more often than not had a small family by the age of 21.
     
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    Where does it say in 'Alice in Wonderland' that Alice never existed?

    I agree with Margot. It is a literary device like the C.S.Lewis trilogy which is entertainment with a purpose. C.S.Lewis describes the 'fight' between good and evil in Christian terms using good and evil characters. He discusses 'Maledil' (God) and his purpose, and the threat from, and fight with, dark forces. You should read them sometime.

    Abraham, Moses etc show us in stories the frailty of man, and his strengths. The blessings of a good life and the problems with wrongdoing. The scribes that wrote these stories had the background knowledge on which to write them. The fact that they left things like actual names of Pharoahs at specific times, and used names and tribes not around when they say they were, shows us that these stories were written later and the names mistakenly used.

    Study the Bible. Study its background. WarRen says the Bible is History. If it is it's sadly wrong.
     
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    Yes they did. Long before the Hebrews.
     
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    You forgot to mention your favourite website. Tut Tut. Think for yourself.
     
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    More amazingly it the fact that non-theists speak more about those "fanciful creatures" than any Christian I have ever seen in my 65 years of life. It seems that the non-theists place a much higher level of importance upon such creatures than do the Theists. The subject is as if the non-theists actually expect to wake up some morning and see these creatures stirring about in their neighborhood.
     
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    Though the place an undeserving title upon me (prophet), you finally managed to get one point straight. The FACT that I "was being sarcastic". Now upon you admitting that you recognized the sarcasm, any further conversation from you on that subject would appear to be from an emotional state of mind, wherein you seemingly got your feelings hurt because of the sarcasm. Oh Well. Such is life in this uncaring secularized world.
    "sarcasm: sar·casm (sär[​IMG]k[​IMG]z[​IMG][​IMG]m)n.1. A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
    2. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
    3. The use of sarcasm. See Synonyms at wit[SUP]1[/SUP]."

    also see "sarcastic" at www.tfd.com/sarcastic for a better explanation.
     
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    Our suprem law of the land is more supreme than any commandments of even something as potentially sacred, as Religion.

    Our Founding Fathers, Ordained and Established it thus; and They said so in Article 6.
     
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