Part 27 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Ancient Hebrews were the ones who started to record everything so that people of the present and future may know the truth and understand to differentiate fiction from true stories.
     
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    God is infinite the Alpha and Omega.
    God is infinite the Alpha and Omega that is how concrete it is.

    Yes our God is incomprehensible that is why He gave us the Holy Bible so that we may get to know Him even in limited ways. One step at a time and the Bible is the first step to know and understand God.
     
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    They repeated stories that they learned from the Babylonians, Egyptians and other Canaanites.. and finally wrote them down.. They aren't history... They are morality tales. Don't turn the stories into a joke.
     
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    The ancient Hebrews corrected the fiction and myth of the Babylonians, Egyptians and other Canaanites thanks to God's revelation we now know that Pharaohs are not gods.
     
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    Who said that Pharaoh was God?

    That has NOTHING to do with the fact that the Hebrews borrowed the stories and myths, adapted them and claimed that they were the history of the Jews.
     
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    That would be - erm - Moses, or was it Joshua. Ah, I remember. It was Melchizedek when he met Lot in Sodom. :wink:
    Well, that's what WarRens History says!
     
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    According to ancient Egyptians and through the advancement of modern studies the Pharaoh was in ancient times considered a god.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_religion

    The early Hebrews through the revelation they received from God learn that the Babylonian stories were all pagan, fiction and myth and that learning has been brought forward to modern time. The Hebrew never claim Babylonian paganism or history as their own that is why they never accepted Babylonian religion or history.
     
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    Looks like your history is all flaw. the fact of the matter is the Hebrews distant themselves from the pagans such as the Egyptians, Babylonians etc. because their stories were full of myth, fiction and fables such as humans with head of a jackal, of phoenix humans etc.
     
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    In ancient times everyone and his brother was a god. It was like calling someone a clerk.
     
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    Nope... the Hebrews borrowed their stories.. even Psalms are Ugarit poems..
     
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    The Pharaoh, Kings and Emperors would be the supreme god. Centuries later through God's revelation we learn that they are not gods and that they are clerks, ladies, gentlemen, sir, comrade, priest, nuns, presidents, chairman, ladies, knights, sultans, but not god.
     
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    The Hebrews corrected their stories they showed them the accurate and real history and they did not like it the Hebrews would start to worship the real One God while the pagans continue to ignore the truth and continue to worship their emperor as gods until finally Jesus Christ came and reveal to them all the real history that God is real and that the ancient Hebrews claims were right and since then they shelve their old stories into the fiction, tales and fables section in their library.
     
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    The Hebrews worshipped the same gods as the Canaanites.
     
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    You really are comical. That was a joke.

    HOWEVER. What you have posted is tosh. Some of Jewish ritual and ceremony comes from Egypt. But then you've never studied it.
     
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    You've never read WarRens History of the World:wink:

    Even the Bible tells us that the Hebrews worshipped various gods. And they had Teraphim (idols) in their houses.
    I really think WarRen has written own Bible. Which is quite a feat. Still he doesn't know the real Bible so why not.
     
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    Lack of interest in the history and cuIture of the times/places into which the bible was birn does seem a common feature of certain brands of christianity. I personally know some who state categorically that to explore these foundations is extrememly dangerous, and who refuse to be exposed to anything at all which does not directly support scripture. It's interesting to note that they see their position as one demonstrating great faith - when it's so patently just the reverse.
     
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    alpha and omega are fixed points, so you'll have to do better.
     
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    no doubt others were teaching the same about the abrahamic god, with some probably saying their special god had come to replace all others. the only difference between yours and theirs is a man named constantine - who was NOT a god. when you start to untangle the dense knot of mythology from that part of the world you'll see it's all essentially the same stuff. how the various 'interpretations' differed is of little consequence. once you see this commonality your understanding changes, and you're beter able to put wild claims about any one version or another into perspective. maybe that's why it's dangerous - to those of light faith.
     
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    Basically science, history and education is "dangerous"... to include geology, volcanology, linguistics and so on.. Many prefer to dabble in "reincarnation" ....
     
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    If you want to know the real Bible you can only do it by doing as you say
     
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    They used to and after God revealed Himself many stopped worshiping Canaanites gods, still after God has chosen them to be His people some Jews will forsake God and revert back to worshiping the Canaanites gods. After the arrival and resurrection of Jesus Christ the Canaanites as well as all other pagans will abandoned their false pagan gods they finally realized that their gods and stories were all myth.
     
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    As usual you laugh at real history
    Egypt will later embraced Christianity after learning the truth they will archived their ancient Egyptian religion in shelves categorized under mythology.

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    Can you point out the fixed points of alpha and omega?
     
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    Before Christ there were no others that were teaching about the Abrahamic religion. Jesus Christ and his followers Christians were all teaching the same ancient Abrahamic religion of Abraham it would be later after Jesus left and after all the Apostles were dead many others started to teach their own version made up Abrahamic religion.

    Constantine indeed is no god I don't know where or which historical records you got that from?
    Constantine ended the persecution of Christians.

    It is dangerous because many have been spreading false interpretations about the Bible worse is that they have created their own versions and have resorted to violence to destroy the real and true interpretation of the Holy Bible.
     
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    Before Jesus they were teaching Judaism which an Abrahamic religion.
     
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    You know nothing. No-one is denying Egypt will eventually adopt a form of Christianity. Until then they worshipped their gods in their way. Some of which influenced Judaism. Even the cross was a religious symbol in Egypt and other nations, sometimes with a figure on it, long before Christ. Tertullian and North African Christians rejected the cross as pagan because of this.

    We don't even know what shape of cross Jesus was crucified on. The shape we see today wasn't decided on for centuries.
     
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