Part 32 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    I am not sure what you meant by Mitt said that dinosaurs did not existed? Maybe ask again.
    Me and Mitt have no opposing view with Christianity.We have been answering all the tough questions brought forward by atheist, agnostics and anti God people and we have been doing a good job in answering if not all most of them.
     
  2. WanRen

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    Are you saying that eating babies is not part of cannibalism?
    So what happened to the babies prior to the flood? That God said Genesis 6:5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time.
    How wicked and evil were the people?
    [video=youtube;oZ1hLjpTGAY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ1hLjpTGAY[/video]
     
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    I answered anti God people question just like Mitt did too why God had to act against the evilness and wickedness of the people and the anti God people were very upset that God acted against them and anti God people continue to resist that cannibalism is part of wickedness and evil and they still continue to do so.
    The question I ask them is why are they so much against God for acting against evil?
    Are they defending and justifying evil?
     
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    Noah's flood is absolutely idiotic... Its a children's story.. 5000 years ago they were using a plow, cultivating rice and maize, had domesticated horses.... no mention of dragons and dinosaurs ... They had died out millions of years before humankind.. and they must have been swarming every continent because they laid 30-40 eggs per dinosaur nest.

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    Noah's flood is absolutely idiotic... Its a children's story.. 5000 years ago they were using a plow, cultivating rice and maize, had domesticated horses.... no mention of dragons and dinosaurs ... They had died out millions of years before humankind.. and they must have been swarming every continent because they laid 30-40 eggs per dinosaur nest.

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    Noah's flood is absolutely idiotic... Its a children's story.. 5000 years ago they were using a plow, cultivating rice and maize, had domesticated horses.... no mention of dragons and dinosaurs ... They had died out millions of years before humankind.. and they must have been swarming every continent because they laid 30-40 eggs per dinosaur nest.
     
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    In post 734 of the last thread wanren states the earth is not 6000 yrs old..please debate this with him
     
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    State the range you believe dinosaurs existed. Mitt said estimates are between 6000 and 4.5 billion. He is incorrect. Please state your range or I have illustrated once again you refuse to partake in your own threads. If you dont want to answer my questions thats fine. I win again.
     
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    The fact you claim anybody who questions YOU is "anti-God"....shows how deep your clinical messianic complex goes.

    And the point was...even MittRyan didn't buy your bulls*** "baby cannibalism" apologia. So you backed down and agreed with him it WAS bulls***.
     
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    The evil God you worshipped collectively punished the children for the sins of their parents.
     
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    Try to get some Literalist into a discusson of the LOGISTICS of the Ark....

    1. How many animals were onboard?

    2. How much food was onboard for those animals?

    3. How much water? Or were the Flood waters "fresh" and buckets could be dipped over the side?

    4. How much hay or grass needed to absorb urine and feces and then be disposed of and replaced?

    4. How many hours in a day would it take 8 adults to feed and water every animal AND muck out their stalls of feces and urine-soaked hay?

    5. According to the Bible, how many days was the Ark afloat?

    Naturally, most can't answer those questions....nor want to even try.
     
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    I have never said the dinosaurs existed between 6000 years and 4.5 billions years ago. Obviously you are having trouble reading and understanding/comprehending what I'm saying. I said I don't know the age of the earth and that there are estimates between 6000 yrs. to 4.5 billion yrs. Below is the exchanges between you and me...read it again very slowly:

    You are either not being honest here or you are having issues with comprehending what others are quoted as saying. If you keep this up misquoting me I will report you and have you banned from having discussions in this thread.
     
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    Okay....when DID they exist?

    BTW, if you say "I don't know, nobody knows"...it proves you are dishonest.

    Either you a Young Earth Creationist too cowardly to admit what he believes, because it would be embarrassing.

    OR you believe that dinosaurs existed dozens of millions of years ago....but that makes it hard for you to debate the rest of "Genesis" when you have to "nuance" how dinosaurs existed with Man.

    So...you won't answer and you'll plead ignorance.
     
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    please read post 33 as well as the entire last thread. Lastly, I asked you not to quote me on posts over a year old. You however are the one requesting my presence in your thread. Im perfectly happy not participating. All you have to do is do what I ask and stop quoting my old posts.
    In other words if you dont like my posts dont read them and dont respond to them. Wanren states the earth is not 6000yrs old. If you dont have any evidence either way looks like he is correct.
     
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    If it is not 4.5 billion what is the range date then? Do you know?
    I have only continued to illustrate your inconsistency and contradiction with history, science and God.
    I am fine with your inconsistency and contradictions but this does not mean that we should not refute your incorrectness with truth and facts.
    You never win when you are incorrect unless that is another form of contradictions or invert thinking?
     
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    Im stating it is 4.5 billion years old. I think you should ask mitt the same question. But to be clear you havr stated it is not 6000yrs old correct?
     
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    Anyone who is against God for no good reason other than their hatred for God is anti God.
    Mitt and us did not accept any of your false claims and contradictions to history, science and most of all about your anti God posture.

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    So you are against God for punishing the wicked and evil? Simple straight question yes or no? Stop using babies as human shield and answer yes or no?
     
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    You all powerful God lacks the ability to target discriminate? He has to kill innocents along with the guilty?

    Wow he's pretty weak.
     
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    So you are saying dinosaurs existed around 4.5 billion years old some scientist believe it is about million years old.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur

    They first appeared during the Triassic period, 231.4 million years ago, and were the dominant terrestrial vertebrates for 135 million years, from the beginning of the Jurassic (about 201 million years ago) until the end of the Cretaceous (66 million years ago),

    Where did you get your reference that dinosaurs existed around 4.5 billion years old?
    Where did you get the claim that I said dinosaurs started only in 6000 years ago?
     
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    Still refused to answer yes or not.
    Ok that is fine I understand and this is the reason why God acted because ancient people during Noah's time make all kinds of excuses and justification to be evil and wicked and that include cannibalism, torture etc. for them that is not evil or wicked sadly still today many people feel the same way :(
     
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    I am against the Christian God because the Christian God is evil. Torturing people for thoughtcrimes, murdering children, collective punishment of innocent people for the actions of dictators who rule them against their will: these are the actions of a profoundly evil being.
     
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    Exactly correct!
     
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    I was quite impressed by some of the details given in the near death experience of Dr. Richard Eby.

    He gave an excellent explanation for Old Earth plus Gap Theory that could well fit with an earth that could be 4.5 billion years old.

    What he wrote also fits well with Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 as well as Revelations 12.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ichard-eby-verifies-old-earth-gap-theory.html
    NDE of Dr. Richard Eby verifies old earth and gap theory.
    I was impressed with the explanation given for the fall of Lucifer which would quite possibly fit with an earth that may well be 4.5 billion years old.

    Apparently a lot happened between the original creation of the earth and the time when the repairing of the earth was made necessary due to an attempted coup d'etat by Lucifer and the angels who decided to follow him!!


    www.near-death.com/forum/nde/000/91.html

     
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    Human beings…… including Christians…… paint others in our own image.

    If we ourselves still have injustice within our own character…… .then we will take scriptures and twist them around in such a way as to make G-d and the Messiah seem similar to us?!

    If we ourselves are given enough of the Holy Spirit/ Ruach ha Kodesh to attain a higher level of consciousness…… then we will begin to see hidden truths that are written between the lines in the Jewish and Christian scriptures.

    When we give to the G-d of Abraham attributes of character…… that might resemble the Adversary/ Satan/ almost pure evil…… that is generally because we ourselves have turned Christianity into a form of witchcraft….. .where we utter the name of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in some special way….. and we are saved…….. but others who don't get it as correctly as we have….. are somehow lost………. That would make for a very unjust Creator…….. but what it really proves is that injustice is still within our own thinking!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...eventually-led-back-heaven-paradise-love.html

    Universal Salvation, is everybody eventually led back to heaven/paradise/love?

    Mr. Christian Andreason, when attempting to put his astonishing near death experience into terms that all of us can relate to presented a powerful case...that yes....we will eventually all be "saved" and brought back into a state of mind of light and love!

    For the time being it seems that differences in opinion over various doctrines is one of the greatest tests that we religious people face?!

    Christian Andreason, Chapter 3:
    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html
     
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    So God is evil in your eyes because God decides to punished the wicked and evil? This is contradictory.

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    ??? is that your answer?
     
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    It's only contradictory because you - as usual - have either not read the post correctly, or deliberately misreading it.
    Anyone who punishes an innocent child/person should themselves be punished.
     
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