Paul Hellyer Earthshaking Confession 'Four Alien Races are Here on Earth'

Their grasp of reality is not necessarily as limited as suggested. Otherwise how is it that the Dogon have known that matter originates from wave-form energy?

 

The explanation that you have offered is plausible and attractive, especially for its potential suitability for demystification. On the other hand, it may not be so deserving of its feel of prospective conclusiveness.

Various indigenous cultures having ancient origins emphatically believe that some of their skills and knowledge were given to them in the far distant past by extraordinary teachers or deities.

Some cultures, such as the Dogon, have cosmologies featuring three main themes: (1) the universe was created from a cosmic egg, (2) matter is a product of wave-form energy, and (3) all life is produced from a fertilized egg.

The Dogon also have a concept of matter being composed of atoms, and of atoms being composed of sub-atomic components. Their “sene seeds” criss-cross to form a “nest” around an atomic core and correspond to electron orbital tracks.

There are unusual links between Dogon concepts and those of other cultures such as Egyptian, Buddhist, and Chinese. For example, Dogon “Po”means matter or primordial time; Egyptian “Pau” means matter, substance, or the beginning of time.

 

I never said any such thing <Rule 3>

I said he had no evidence or credibility and that is fact.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence this ass clown has no evidence of any kind whatsoever. But yes i would if I visited other planets.

If aliens had the capacity to cross lightyears to visit here they would do the same as well and our violent nature would be as irrelevant as the violent nature of ants are to us.

 

Good grief, had I tried to bother you or insult you, I doubt I could have. So act insulted but that was not my intent.

I was trying to say in my words what I believe your point was.

As to your notion of what Aliens would do, you just posted a thing for which you have no evidence. Sorry. I hope you get the irony of that comment by me.

 

I posted something logical you did not.

I was not insulted I called you on a lie and you have no ability to insult me.

My point was clear and factual and correct.

 

Imagine the rest of the posters, including myself talked back at you in that fashion.

Why be rude to posters?

 

A chemtrail is a normal condensation trail with extra ingredient such as a trace of toxic metal or other suspicious chemical. What is the basis of pilots' supposed knowledge that you cite?

 

I was not being rude.

Facts are facts.

If they bother you that is on you.

 

What medical practice?

He got his license in 1989 and started his UFO nonsense the following year and seems to have being doing nothing but UFO nonsense ever since. Can't find any documentation on him actually practicing medicine anywhere.

 

Please provide credible substantiation for that allegation.

 

Where are your credible sources for these allegations?

The concept of atoms is documented amongst the ancient Greeks so it is hardly surprising that this concept has turned up in other cultures. It is a logical way of understanding matter. Furthermore watching a plant grow from a seed explains life coming from fertilized eggs. Once again all it takes is observation of nature.

As far as myths regarding the origin of the universe it would be logical to assume that since life originates from a seed that the universe had a similar beginning.

No aliens needed to arrive at any of those insights.

 

Please provide credible substantiation for these alleged "trace of toxic metal or other suspicious chemical" substances.

Pilots see them all the time. You can even see them coming off the wings of racing cars.



Are you trying to tell us that race cars carry "toxic metals and suspicious chemicals" around a race track too?

 

To whom are you posting? It's nice to identify the other poster.

 

I wish there was some general information about who these 4 races of aliens are.

It would be nice if they released the name of their people and maybe the home planet name. I wouldn't want to know the star name though because I don't know the stars.

I don't think the aliens are named as they are commonly identified in mainstream UFO lore. That is the Greys, Reptilian, Nordics, and Tall Whites. And I think these alien identities are more myth than fact.

(Plus with my alien encounters I never met the types from alien folklore. The real ones were different.)

 

Of course, that's hilariously false, and accepted climate theories are supported by mountains of evidence. Not that the opinion of someone who knows less than nothing about any of those scinentific fields has any bearing on any of that....but worth pointing out, nonetheless.

 

They didn't....what an absurd thing to say.

 

So says every serious, rational person. Don't believe me? Find the company of some of them and repeat these hilarious claims without a shred of evidence. Report back on the results.

 

definitely chem trails...it's those buggers at NASA again! now they've infiltrated Formula 1 too!

 

That explains how Bernie Ecclestone became a billionaire!

 

Don't worry Mama, I am surrounded by humans in denial. Serious and rational are the wrong adjectives to describe humans in denial.

 

Have you considered the idea that maybe that means your claims are ridiculous and merit denial? Have you considered that the fact that you have not a shred of evidence is part and parcel of that? Somehow, I doubt you have.

 

Yes I did. But when I observed my first high speed UFO in the night sky, I changed my mind.

After that, reading up on the subject confirmed that I had been wrong.

 

That was a very poor decision. First of all, you are not allowed to call it a "UFO", because you clearly feel you have something identified it, without a shred of evidence. That was your first error. Second, thinking you saw something and then identifying what it was without a shred of evidence is not a good reason to accept other ,extraordinary claims without a shred of evidence. Third, eyewitness testimony is just about the most unreliable form of evidence that exists, and it is not empirical evidence at all.

 

Thank you for a superb display of ignorance in posting! You know nothing of the details, but have declared yourself expert about an event you know nothing about.

Self-declared experts are a dime-a-dozen on the internet. Ignorant posts are the rule, not the exception. A pity, Mama.

 

My source is a recently purchased book that I don’t have with me at this time. Other info below may be relevant, but the final outlook is beyond what I can readily sort out without further study.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_dogon05.htm: Dogon Cosmology and Egyptian Hieroglyphic Writing, by Laird Scranton, August 11, 2013 New Dawn No. 112 (January-February 2009) from New Dawn Magazine website.

…the cosmology is often expressed ritually through familiar acts that are shared commonly with Judaism - such as the wearing of skull-caps and prayer shawls, the celebration of a Jubilee year, and the practice of circumcision. Furthermore, the cosmology appears to be a close relative to the ancient Vedic tradition of India, which served as the foundation for Buddhism and Hinduism.

Likewise, key concepts are couched in well-defined cosmological keywords whose pronunciations and meanings often closely reflect similar pronunciations and meanings found in the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic language.

Parallels such as these suggest that the Dogon religion may well have had its roots in much more ancient cosmological traditions.

The many close parallels that exist between the Dogon and Buddhist cosmologies define a kind of framework, within whose context we can make sense of the various fragmentary references of Egyptian cosmology.For example,

· the Egyptian god Amen is a likely counterpart to the 'hidden' Dogon god Amma

· the eight paired gods and goddesses of the Egyptian Ogdoad or Ennead share important attributes with the eight male/female ancestors of Dogon tradition

Like the ancient Egyptians and the Buddhists, the Dogon conceive of the processes of creation in terms of multiple Worlds.

The Dogon define a Second World similar to the Egyptian Underworld that is associated with a jackal - a figure who is symbolic of the concept of disorder - and is governed by a canine who is assigned the role of judge between truth and error.

Likewise, careful comparison shows that many of the key Dogon cosmological drawings take shapes reminiscent of ancient Egyptian glyphs and are often defined by the Dogon priests in relation to concepts or meanings similar to those found in ancient Egypt.

In fact, there are many different ways in which the study of Dogon cosmology provides us with potential insights into the forms and meanings of ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic characters and words.

It is almost impossible for the comparative cosmologist to miss stark similarities between words such as Ogo (the name of a character who plays the role of light in Dogon myth) and Aakhu (the name of the Egyptian light god), or Sigui (the name of an important Dogon festival) and skhai (an Egyptian word meaning 'to celebrate a festival'.)

Support for these comparisons is most often provided by the cosmology itself, which typically defines a second level of meaning for important cosmological words - one that is logically disconnected from the first such that one cannot reasonably derive one meaning from the other.

Another example is that Amma and Amen are both defined as 'hidden gods', but both words can also mean 'to grasp, to hold firm, or to establish'.

The significance of these multiple meanings may be more obvious in the Dogon language, where - because no actual written Dogon language exists - words must be grouped based on similarity of pronunciation.

However in the modern view of the Egyptian hieroglyphic language, the choice has been made to categorize words based on commonality of spelling - not pronunciation - and so any significance that may have originally rested on similarities of pronunciation is often rendered effectively transparent.

The initial impulse to consider the possible influences of cosmology on the Egyptian hieroglyphic language begins with the many persistent parallels that have been shown to exist between modern-day Dogon culture and that of ancient Egypt.

These are documented in greater detail in my book The Science of the Dogon, but include such subtle practices as the founding of villages and districts in deliberate pairs - one called Upper and the other Lower.

Cultural comparisons between the Dogon and the ancient Egyptians range from the types of calendars observed, to common units of measure such as the cubit, to the observance of similar holidays and festivals, common modes of dress for their priests, common ritual practices such as circumcision, and a host of common words, mythical themes and symbols relating to concepts of cosmology.

Given the depth and breadth of these other cultural parallels, it seems somewhat surprising that the Dogon have no native written language, but rather simply define an extensive set of drawn figures and signs. Many of these are closely associated with concepts of cosmology, and often take similar form and meaning to written Egyptian glyphs.

The absence of a written language among the Dogon suggests that any close contacts that may have occurred between the Dogon and the ancient Egyptians may have happened prior to the onset of written language in Egypt, or roughly at the boundary between pre-dynastic and dynastic Egypt.

Support for this view can be found in many other aspects of Dogon cosmology and culture, which can also be seen to make sense if we postulate an early Dogon relationship to ancient Egypt.

Where Dogon cosmology defines eight relatively undifferentiated ancestors/teachers who emerge as paired opposites, ancient Egypt defines eight paired ancestor/gods and goddesses, who together define a category of deity that is simply not found in Dogon cosmology.

Again and again we see non-deities in Dogon cosmology - characters from Dogon mythology (such as a jackal who symbolizes the concept of disorder and a fox who is defined as a judge between truth and error) rise to the status of deities in ancient Egypt.

Yet Dogon cosmology also includes many cosmological elements from pre-dynastic Egypt that are known to have carried forward to ancient Egypt much in their pre-dynastic form.

Such evidence again points to a likely timeframe for any close contact between the Dogon and the ancient Egyptians at or around the boundary between pre-dynastic and dynastic Egypt.

Matching aspects of Dogon and Buddhist cosmology provide us with a series of defined shapes that are evoked by the cosmology and explicitly assigned to symbolic concepts - the first of these is the circular sun glyph shape, which both the Dogon and Buddhists associate with the sun (see Figure 3, page 55).

Among others is the shape of a hemisphere or dome, which is associated with the concept of essence or mass, substance or matter. Another is the shape of a square, which the Dogon and Buddhists correlate to the concept of space. (One expressed purpose of a stupa is to define an ordered space from a disordered field.)

These shapes and their associated concepts, the pairing of which is cross-confirmed between the plans of the Buddhist stupa and the Dogon granary, play out in similar ways to the sun glyph when we examine their usage in ancient Egyptian words.

My book Sacred Symbols of the Dogon traces the likely origins of these shapes along with likely relationships between them and ancient Egyptian counterparts, and illustrates how concepts such as mass and space play out symbolically in the definitions of various ancient Egyptian cosmological words.

It is not surprising that the decidedly scientific creational themes of ancient cosmology should play out in terms of symbols that appear to relate to scientific concepts.

Most importantly, it is the cross-confirming evidence that can be drawn from comparative cosmology that supports a new view of Egyptian language. The straightforward argument runs like this:

· Dogon cosmology assigns a specific word to a cosmological concept and associates that word both with a drawn cosmological shape and with two logically-disconnected meanings

· Buddhist stupa symbolism - through its direct parallels to Dogon cosmology - directly affirms the association between the concept and the shape.

· The pronunciation of the Dogon word, along with its well-defined pair of meanings, links us to a set of corresponding Egyptian words pronounced like the Dogon word, and which reflect the same logically-disconnected concepts.

· Most often, at least one of these related written Egyptian words includes the related Dogon cosmological shape as a written glyph.

Perhaps the best clue to indicate that the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic language was intended to be primarily symbolic - rather than phonetic - in nature lies with its lack of written vowel sounds.

Like ancient Hebrew and other contemporaneous ancient languages, vowel sounds are only implied in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic words. When we interpret the word symbolically - by substituting concepts for glyphs to produce a symbolic sentence - any question of a missing vowel is rendered moot. No vowel is provided because none is required.

It is a known fact that Hebrew acquired markings later in history to signal vowel sounds, whereas the Egyptian hieroglyphs did not. To the comparative cosmologist, it seems nonsensical to choose phonetic interpretation as the first purpose of a language that deliberately omits key phonemes from every word.

Additional clues to the symbolic meanings of Egyptian glyph shapes are provided in Egyptian mythology, and are perhaps best understood through comparisons to Dogon cosmology.

In Dogon myth, each discreet mythological character - such as the one true Dogon god Amma, who initiates creation, or Ogo, a character who plays the role of light in Dogon myth - represents a component stage of creation - the very same component stages that are illustrated by the Dogon cosmological drawings whose shapes we correlate to Egyptian glyphs.

This hint leads us to examine Egyptian deities and glyphs shapes in a similar context, and ultimately to uncover a systematic relationship between Egyptian deities and Egyptian glyph shapes - governed by similarities of pronunciation between the name of the deity and the corresponding glyph.

This relationship is outlined in great detail in my book Sacred Symbols of the Dogon.

From this perspective, evidence of a symbolic written language becomes one of the signature attributes of a likely parent cosmology - one that could provide a sensible conceptual umbrella over the Dogon, Buddhist and Egyptian cosmologies.

Likewise, it becomes glaringly obvious that ancient Chinese writing, which increasingly, based on recent discoveries, can be reasonably dated to a period contemporaneous with the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs and ancient Hebrew - shares key attributes in common with these written cosmological symbols.