Pelosi: GOP needs 'lesson on the birds and the bees' amid abortion fights

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  1. TheHat

    TheHat Well-Known Member

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    http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatc...n-the-birds-and-the-bees-amid-abortion-fights

    Good old Pelosi, always good for a quality face palm!

    Lefties, explain something to me on this issue.

    Planned parenthood claims that the 20 week abortion ban will cause them to close up shop. Yet, time and time again, they tell us abortion is just a small part of their business.

    I am confused.

    If a small portion of your business goes down, why on earth does the rest of it go with it?

    Could it be the fact that PP is primarily an abortion clinic, who simply spread into other areas so they could claim "women's health clinic"? Or just straight up lying to folks?

    I am going with both being the answer.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    I too am very confused.

    First I was confused that they called an abortion clinic, "planned parenthood"

    Then I was confused cause we have obamacare, and all health care is guarenteed, and planned parenthood would then have no reason to exist.

    and now Im confused because, according to baby killing leftys, abortion is the least of the services they offered, but now they claim theyll go bankrupt, if they are forced to kill less babies....

    This whole thing is very confusing,

    Its almost like democrats and planned parenthood are telling lies....
     
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    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    God help us all if Pelosi were to gave the "bird and bees" lesson.

    If babies are like bills, they have to be passed to see what was inside [of mommy].

    Generalismo Pelosi on the "birds and bees"
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    Not surprising. You appear not to have actually read or heard the objections by PP wrt 20 week abortions. They do object to it on grounds that 99% of all abortion occur within the first 21 weeks and that there are instance thereafter, where abortions are medically necessary and therefore should be legal.

    The claim of shutting down because of the 20 week limit, is totally and completely bogus. The objection by PP is wrt the various other aspects of the bills that make the vast majority (or all) of a state's abortion clinics conform to new surgical clinic laws specifically designed to deny those clinics licenses, to requirements of hospital privileges for abortion clinic doctors that the legislators know will not be granted, etc.

    They object to the deliberate manipulation of existing laws to ensure that "legal" access to abortions cannot be had because that "legal" bar in the state is impossibly high for existing clinics.

    Of course you would go with both bogus answers. Truth is not something that the anti-abortion crowd necessarily wants to deal with when a couple of good misrepresentations are so much more effective with their supporters.
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Excellent point! But do you think any of these liberal leaders will be asked that? I think since PP is making this claim, then it's time for them to PROVE just how much of their business is abortion-related. Otherwise, we'll have to assume the answer is "a WHOLE LOT."
     
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    In some cases the harsh abortion laws require additional medical units and specialists to be attached to offices that might preform abortion, in other cases state governments have banned insurance funding of agencies that involve themselves in providing abortion beyond the strict rules so national networks like Planned parenthood, who operate more freely in other states, can have their entire financial arm fall over it in the state.

    In any case smaller clinics that can't change to follow the law, or those that can't receive money anymore because of their attachment to the planned parenthood brand need to close. That's my impression of the situation.
     
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    No one is calling for a firm 20-week rule. There will always be cases where the life of the mother takes precedence over a regulation like this.
     
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    You didn't read the complaint either, I see.

    The 20-week limit is really not all that much of a restriction, provided later abortions remain permitted in cases of genuine medical complications. But the devil is in the details. Some states noticed that abortion doctors ride circuits, so they passed laws requiring the doctors to physically reside near the clinic. Some states measured the width of corridors in the clinics, and added amendments requiring wider hallways - essentially, requiring clinics to be torn down and rebuilt. Some states noticed that abortions are outpatient procedures done in the clinics, so they passed laws requiring that the abortion doctors have admittance privileges at the local hospitals, which they don't need and can't get.

    None of these restrictions has anything to do with term limits, with safety, or with the well-being of anyone involved. All are passed for the specific targeted purpose of closing down abortion clinics for reasons irrelevant to anything meaningful. Abortion really IS a very small part of Planned Parenthood's operation, but if the states find absurd pretexts to close down the clinics, this closes down everything else Planned Parenthood does.
     
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    Yeah - it should've been called something like "planned slice, dice, and suck".
     
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    I take it you are a fervent advocate of UNPLANNED parenthood. You know, the accidental kind where the parents are neither ready nor able to raise a child. But so long as the mother is forced to give birth, THEN you lose interest.

    I recommend you open "forced parenthood" clinics. I'm sure Republican legislatures would shower you with money, provided the offspring of these unions don't cost them anything after birth.
     
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    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    Chill, my man. You take me too seriously.
     
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