People died from mRNA shots...results from autopsies in Germany

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  1. James California

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    ~ Bill HB 9366 was introduced in December by Rep. Louie Gohmert and Rep. Ronny Jackson . If passed this would remove the vaccine manufacturers of their immunity and causes them to be liable for injuries.
    What is the chance this bill will pass ..?
     
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    ~ Who checks the fact checkers .. ? :confuse:'
     
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    You really should vet your sources before relying on them

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    We both know you assiduously avoid examining any facts that threaten your worldview.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's you. I'm not confused at all about the Scamdemic. There are still many details I don't know about it, but I know it was brought deliberately by the medical industrial complex, emphasis on COMPLEX.
     
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    And how do you "know" this?
     
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    We both know it's just the opposite. You present your items, I examine it, I find out why it is not accurate and post why...and then you and all the other anti vaxxers ignore that.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    NWolfe

    Can you give an honest answer?

    Have you read The Real Anthony Fauci by RFK Jr?

    Have you examined the work of David E. Martin?

    Have you read anything by Judy Mikovits? Do you know her story?

    Do you know how many times Pfizer has pleaded guilty to criminal medical fraud in this century?
     
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    David E. Martin is a financial analyst. Not a medical doctor, not qualified to speak to the validity of the pandemic. His claims that the virus was man made and intentionally released (claims he has made in the "documentary" Plandemic: Indoctrination) have been debunked here:

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/new-plandemic-video-peddles-misinformation-conspiracies/

    Yes, I know her story.
    It's a story of failed papers making all kinds of claims that have later been totally refuted.
    In 2009, while Director of research at Whittmore Peterson Institute, she authored a paper suggesting an obscure agent named xenotropic murine leukemia virus-related virus (XMRV) caused chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS). XMRV was accidentally created in a lab during mouse experiments and there is no indication that it has ever infected a human being. In a rigorous double blind study of the claims 300 blood samples were tested (1/2 of which came from people with CFS) and NONE of them were found to have XMRV. Mikovits finally admitted that, ""There is no evidence that XMRV is a human pathogen."

    She published no papers from 2012 on and, in fact, started to promote the debunked XMRV connection to CFS that she, herself, had admitted was false (see above)

    In short she is a discredited scientist who has made repeated claims that have all be thoroughly debunked.

     
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    And like I said, I present the FACTS refuting your claims and you ignore them.
     
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    ~ Dr. Deborah Birx also has a few bombshells in her book. Wonder why she is not interviewed by George Stephanopoulos .. ?
     
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    This looks like a poster focusing on and insulting another poster. I wonder why it's still here.
     
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    You are disingenuously trying to take the focus off the fact that you attempted to post misinformation and I caught you doing so.

    In this post --
    You tried to intimate that these people had Bell's Palsy caused by the 'Pfizer' vaccine. Unlike you, I do not blindly trust sources, I check them. Maybe if you bothered to check the origins of images, you might not post so much misinformation. I bothered to check and found that you were blatantly posting misinformation and misleading people with the above post.

    You aren’t the first person who has taken the pictures you posted of people with Bell’s Palsy and called them examples of the ‘Pfizer smile’.

    In this article, it seems the author could be writing about you — see quote below:

    Many of such posts shared photos of patients affected by Bell’s Palsy, which some social media users rehashed including Bieber’s photo with the caption “Pfizer Smile”. Such posts are unsupported and misleading. First, Bieber’s facial paralysis was caused by a viral infection, and no evidence indicates that the COVID-19 vaccine played a role. Second, those photos aren’t of people who developed Bell’s palsy following COVID-19 vaccination; they existed long before the development of the vaccine, as Health Feedback previously documented.

    https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...evidence-that-covid-19-vaccine-played-a-role/

    In the above link, ‘shared photos of patients’ goes to the exact image you posted of the people with Bell’s Palsy with the Pfizer smiles — the point is none of these people were vaccinated for covid so they couldn’t have developed Bell’s Palsy from the vaccine. You are trying to claim they had Bell’s Palsy from the covid-19 vaccine — they did not. You should admit that you have posted misinformation. I believe this is the third time I have caught you posting misinformation on this forum and given enough proof that you have done so.

    Are you really trying to claim a causal link between Bell's Palsy and the covid-19 vaccine with this quote you posted:

    In relationship to the above, you then stated:


    Can you actually understand what you are reading?

    Let me try to explain something to you and the other people that consistently post misinformation -- Just because one event (vaccine) was followed by another event (Bell's Palsy), it does not mean that the vaccine caused Bell's Palsy. In a large population, cases of Bell's Palsy and deaths from Bell's Palsy are expected to occur SOLEY by RANDOM CHANCE. The cases of Bell's Palsy that were observed in the Pfizer and BioNTech trials were no higher than the frequency of the background rate for the general population. Therefore, you are basically agreeing that there is no causal relationship as evidenced by the quote you posted above, yet at the same time you are misleading people by associating images of people with Bell's Palsy with the vaccine when their cases occurred before the production of any covid-19 vaccines.

    From PubMed Central -- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9448503/-- Bell's Palsy and COVID-19 Vaccination: A Systematic Review --

    Results: During the electronic search, hand search, and reference check, we identified 1281 citations, and in hand searching, we detected additional 15 studies. After omitting duplicated citations and assessing the title, abstract, and full text 15 case-report and two case-series studies were included for the critical appraisal process and were included in this study. Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were the most common vaccines among articles that reported the cases of Bell’s palsy. Left-sided paralysis was more common than right-sided paralysis. The interval between receiving the vaccine and the onset of facial weakness was between 1 and 48 days.

    Conclusion: Further studies with larger sample sizes are necessary to assess the association between Bell's palsy and the dose-response of the COVID-19 vaccine.

    For one last time, you are posting misinformation that the covid-19 vaccine causes Bell's Palsy. There is no proof of this. You post pictures of people with Bell's Palsy who haven't had the covid-19 vaccinations and then try to take the focus off your enormous mistake by making some random accusation that I was 'backpedaling’. Nope, you got caught red-handed posting misinformation. Again. The information I am posting is for people who are actually interested in looking at the information from both sides and in this case it is totally obvious you are posting misinformation and misleading images.

    I did question what happened to Justin Bieber and I went to further sources that aren’t known to have poor sources, that plagiarize, that lack transparency, and repeatedly fails to fact checks. I believe somebody already pointed this out to you.

    First, I went to the source himself. Justin Bieber said himself that his facial paralysis was caused by a virus or was he lying on his own social media? See his video at the link below.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CeorE9OjqX9/?hl=en

    The anti-vaxxers started making up stories from this point onward. Justin Bieber has never said publicly whether he has been vaccinated or not. What we do know is that Justin Bieber had Ramsey Hunt Syndrome that is caused by the same virus that causes chickenpox — varicella-zoster. Justin Bieber grew up in Canada and children in Stratford, Ontario were not vaccinated against Chickenpox until 2004 so Bieber wasn’t vaccinated against chickenpox as a child. To get Ramsey Hunt Syndrome, he would have had to have chickenpox as a child.

    You are stating from a really bad source that there is a causal relationship between the vaccine and developing Ramsey Hunt Syndrome? I looked into this further.

    First of all, stop conflating Ramsey Hunt Syndrome with Bell’s Palsy — they are different conditions. The cause of Bell's Palsy is unknown. It is believed to be due to an inflammatory reaction to a viral infection that affects the 7th cranial nerve. Viruses associated with Bell's Palsy include Herpes Simplex, Epstein Barr, and the SARS-CoV-2.

    Ramsey Hunt Syndrome is a type of shingles. There is no conclusive evidence that demonstrates that a covid-19 vaccination might potentially trigger an episode of shingles. There also have been some reports of Ramsey Hunt Syndrome occurring following Covid-19 infection. Bieber had Covid, so can we conclude perhaps that getting infected by the virus itself triggered his Ramsey Hunt Syndrome? It could have. There is some associative evidence but no causal proof. Do unvaccinated people get Ramsey Hunt Syndrome -- yes and any current evidence doesn't indicate that the syndrome is more frequent in vaccinated people. So you have no business misleading people into believing that Bieber's illness was caused by a vaccine.

    As far as Hailey Bieber goes, it is highly unlikely that a vaccine caused her illness. If you would step away from bogus websites you might know some real medical facts that Hailey Bieber has discussed herself. She suffered a 'mini-stroke' aka a TIA -- transient ischemic attack. The TIA was caused by a blood clot that passed through a large hole in her heart -- at the time it was unknown she had 'patent foramen ovale (PFO). None of her doctors or Hailey Bieber herself blamed the covid vaccine. She had previously had covid, she was on birth controls pills which she admitted she shouldn't be taking due to increased risk of clots due to also suffering migraines, she had recently been on long flights which increases clot risk, and she had the PFO which massively raises the risk of stroke from clots. Perhaps, if you considered all the information, you could come to a better conclusion and stop posting misinformation about Hailey Bieber as well.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/8793839/hailey-bieber-mini-stroke-reveals-details/
    https://healthnewshub.org/hailey-bi...s-awareness-of-risk-factors-for-young-people/

    There many many reliable sources that say the same thing.
     
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    Plus the source where he got the "quote" from Bieber blaming the vaccine is a satire site and you can find that out if you just do a little investigation on the site itself. They do not hide that they are satire.
     
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    ~ I believe the next "new and improved " booster is now available.
     
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    Now, why do you suppose official Pfizer documents state Bell's Palsy in the studies?

    Page 19 of the following Pfizer report.

    5.3.6 CUMULATIVE ANALYSIS OF POST-AUTHORIZATION ADVERSE EVENT
    REPORTS OF PF-07302048 (BNT162B2) RECEIVED THROUGH 28-FEB-2021


    Page 11 of the same Pfizer report for Hailey's condition is mentioned (blood clot in the brain, which caused a stroke).

    The bold text is highlighted as they are 'blood clot' related.

    Can you point out where this occurred?
    The document above doesn't think so. One source confirms and corroborates with another.
    Back to the Pfizer report for this one.

     
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    Had other things to do at the time more important.
     
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    What could more important than "owning the libs" about the vaxxes online?
     
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    The fact checkers fancy themselves the ministry the truth. But they're often times just a branch of CNN or MSNBC
     
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    Que! [pronounced ––– kay, meaning ––– WTF?]

    I'll take that as a compliment.
     
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    Oh no! He's "owned the libs" again!
     
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    So does that mean you've been 'educated' and all the other Libs?:D
     
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    Ok, so a significant percentage are dying more often than ever before after the covid shot was administered without having Covid symptoms. That should clear all the Vax lovers.

    I wonder who will live longer now, the Vax or Unvaxxed as only time will tell being historically, Vax's are given 5 to 10 years of clinical trials and right now, the Vaxxed are the guinnea pigs.

    I will wait the 5 to 10 years before I get the shot to make sure it is safe and not be some lab rat. With the way this vax was "Genetically" engineered and never tested more than a few months, you have zero proof that the Vax is truly safe outside Big Pharma scaring you all while being given total immunity against lawsuits by the government for any side effects. If anyone on earth thinks this is completely normal, I have a wooden nickel worth thousands I will sell you for a dollar.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=tes...9i57j33i160.7937j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
     
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    Being the US Government has gone overboard to ensure that Big Pharma is protected and cannot be sued all while intentionally hiding statistics and trial results, I sure hope that other more free countries can sue Big Pharma IF they find that the Vaccine truly did cause life altering symptoms and/or deaths. Will need to wait until some researchers feel comfortable with their results to dispute and take on the global elite without threats to their life and safety though. I do know that Hospitals staff in the USA are forbidden with discussing the Vax without threat of lawsuit or termination.
     
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