People died from mRNA shots...results from autopsies in Germany

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  1. ricmortis

    ricmortis Well-Known Member

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    LOL. Everything I said is true and cannot be disputed.

    Vaccines are always given a 5 to 10 year trial study so all Covid vaxxed people are currently Lab Rats that signed away any form of compensation for adverse affects.

    Big Pharma is completely protected by the US Government.

    The Vax does not stop a single person from spreading Covid. Thus, it is not a Vaccination to prevent Covid, but a clinical drug to treat Covid. Hence, it is not a Vaccination.

    It has been proven many times that statistics have been suppressed and Big Pharma has been given up to 55 years to release their results of their clinical trial with the Amrican public which has never been done before on any clinical trial ever.

    Lastly, more people have died more often after the receiving the covid shot than ever before regardless of the "documented" causes.

    I understand how anyone who has bought into believing in every single thing their government tells them to believe in without a single doubt to challenge those directives. Look at Russia and I am sure those Vax lovers would have been pro Putin if information was that massively suppressed here like Covid trial results have been done here. And, if the government rushed a Genetically engineered Vaccination to the entire masses for the first time ever after only a few months of testing and trials is completely crazy that people will blindly believe that it is safe when you cannot sue if it ends up not being safe. Because, test and trials takes 5 to 10 years, not 3-6 months.

    Now, I am positive that the Vax has kept the death rate lower and hospital stays reduced.

    But, nobody on earth can say the number of deaths in 5 to 10 years will NOT be at an increased risk for Vaxxed people or that there will never be adverse affects with an experimental drug that has not been thoroughly tested. Once those 5 to 10 years have passed and if there are truly low risk elements for the Covid Vax, then I will buy into the hype and get the jab, but I will not be a sheep who jumps at an experiment with potential risks just because of scare tactics. Never. I have had Covid 3 times as I travel constantly, but have never had anything more than a common cold as symptoms that have lasted no more than 2 days.

    Fortunately, Europe lets you travel freely if you have Anti-Bodies whereas the USA requires the Jab. Pro-Vax people don't even question that.
     
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  2. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sorry for no link, but last year sometime I read a good article showing that many of the "fact checkers" were employed by entities owned and controlled by Bill Gates. Their purpose is to advance the official narrative, to keep the lies alive.

    Stephen Hawking noted years ago that "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

    That really describes it well, and dovetails nicely with Bill Casey's statement back in 1981: When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts.
     
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    Oh, ok. Bill Gates and stuff. How about Hillary and George Soros?
     
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    Good quote from Hawking that I agree with entirely.

    Anti vaxxers do not have "knowledge" they have "the illusion of knowledge". They've read a couple of articles on the internet (usually from disreputable sources) and all of sudden think they have the knowledge of someone with an MD or PhD who has studied epidemiology their entire life.

    They lack the knowledge/education/experience to parse through the intricate and detailed information that is part of determining how safe the vaccine is or how it even works.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    More deflection from members of the Church....
     
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    They CAN say it and they DO say it.

    That's because they understand how a vaccine works and you do not. They understand how the new mRNA technology works and you do not. Vaccines are safe from the get go, there is zero chance that a vaccine is going to have an adverse effect 5 to 10 years from now because that is not how vaccines work. That is not how ANY vaccine works. The testing is not determine how safe they are but how effective they are. How long does the immunity given by the vaccine stay effective. What is the best way to deliver the vaccine to give maximum protection? How often will we need new shots? How does the virus mutate? THESE are the things that take 5 to 10 years to test not whether or not it is "safe"
     
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    What, exactly, am I deflecting?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Pretty much everything Wolfe. I learned something new from Stephen Hawking, and I'm going to run it in the ground. :lol:

    When it comes to the Plandemic and other matters, many Americans labor under an illusion of knowledge.
     
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    The floor is yours, name ONE thing I have gotten wrong or deflected from that is factual.
     
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    You find it hard to connect dots, hey?
    Did you listen to his speel?
    I wonder why India want Bill's balls in a vice?
     
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    You again repeatedly continue to make negative assumptions as to others being ignorant because they do not have your views. I would argue that is narcissistic and delusional. I would also state, we are all ignorant and need to have an open mind to ideas, concepts other than our own. I am trying my hardest with you but you very rarely provide anything to discuss and most of your comments are subjective unsubstantiated negative generalizations such as the above. The person you challenge more than explained his basis for his conclusions. How about you do the same instead of constantly posing that everyone who disagrees with you is ignorant. That very assumption is ignorant. Your views you express I disagree with for many reasons I have explained however I do not call you ignorant and acknowledge your right to have those beliefs. All I say is if you expect to walk around in public withg a contagious illness society will want to contain you one way or the other.

    Right now a new strain of Covid 19 is circulating and it appears this virus will continue to mutate as many viruses do. One day you may require medical services for treatment and can't receive it because someone who could have avoided using the medical treatment you need is using it.

    That E is the bottom line. How do we work together to share the medical services we have to assure the most needy get those services. For me if a shot can help prevent me from using a service someone else needs more badly, I will gladly take that shot.

    Your self centered beliefs that equate others as being ignorant I argue absolves you from thinking of others and instead writing them off as ignorant. It enables you to block them out.
     
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    You're playing "connect the dots" when the issue is virology, epidemiology, darwinian evolution and scientific research.
     
  13. UntilNextTime

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    For a virus to survive, why would it kill its host, counterproductive don't you think?

    Viral Mutation/Evolution
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/virus-mutation
     
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    No. It's unusual for a virus similar to the flu, as they both come from the same "corona" family. Why does it kill? It is very discriminatory. The flu virus weakens the
    immune system of an already strained one. Those with existing comorbidities and the elderly are more at risk. What most don't realise is that it's the comorbidity that eventually
    kills the victim.
     
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    The point is don't trust fact checkers. That's a very arrogant thing to call themselves anyway. As if they're the arbiters of fact.
     
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    Why, because she is a threat to the whole bullshit show of false narratives and fearmongering campaigns?
    You do know that those that play the game of bullshit will go to any length to discredit, character and career assassinate and ridicule any and all that stand in the way of their agenda?

    Blood clots anyone?
    Funeral Embalmer: 85% of Dead Bodies Now Have Strange Blood Clots Since COVID Vaccine Roll-outs

    Or what about Life insurance?
    Fifth Largest Life Insurance Company in US Paid Out 163% More for Deaths of Working People ages 18-64 in 2021 After COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates
     
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    The concept of fact checkers to me was stupid in the first place. First of all it's the media that lies. They were the ones that created a lion organization and called it fact checker. So they could pretend like their lies are not lies.

    The concept of a fact checker is like the ministry of Truth. Never ever trust anything called the factor they're always lying.
     
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    Now you're seeing dots?
     
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    Views don't matter in subjects of fact. Some people hold the view that the Earth is flat these people hold wrong views.
     
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    Yes, that’s exactly what you do with your agenda — discredit scientific research , ridicule people constantly, get caught posting false and misleading information. This is the game you play.

    Judy Mikovits was caught fudging data, and purposely contaminating samples with XMRV and got busted for it. Her study was retracted and there were more than ten studies that couldn’t replicate her findings. She couldn’t even replicate her own findings. She even got arrested for stealing research from the Whittemore Peterson Institute. Destitute patients were paying 700 hundred dollars for XMRV tests because of her lies and deceit. Why don’t you go search for patents that she was trying to cash in on related to XMRV. She was easily discredited when what she claimed in Plandemic was investigated by virologists and people with the credentials to assess her claims. It’s all true and she has discredited herself and those who believe her words are in denial or only read crap sites with articles written by liars with no scientific credentials.
     
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    ~ As more evidence of excessive side-effects from the mRNA vaccine comes from around the world the jab junkies who remain healthy do not realize they are the lucky ones — for now .
    Let us pray ... :pray:
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    The SARS-CoV-2 virus and the influenza virus are not similar at all. First mistake that shows your lack of knowledge, there isn’t one flu virus. They do not both come from the same ‘corona’ family. There are two corona viruses — SARS 1 and the present one. As I said, there isn’t one flu virus — there are four different types and A and B cause the seasonal epidemics. The influenza viruses have been around for ages and they mutate every year which is why they put out a new vaccine every year. The immune system has had years to encounter and build up a resistance to circulating flu viruses. The SARS-CoV-2 virus was novel — nobody had any immunity at all — nobody. One would never refer to the influenza viruses as ‘novel’.

    Covid spreads more easily than the flu. Covid causes more severe illness in some people that the flu generally wouldn’t. People with covid can be contagious for much longer. Flu does not cause blood clots in the veins and arteries of the lungs, heart, legs or brain — covid does. When people recover from the flu, they recover. People who get covid can have breathing issues for months, heart conditions, loss of brain function, fatigue for months on end. Many differences here. You are again misleading people with misinformation because you are misinformed.

    Of course there are similarities as both cause some of the same symptoms.
     
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    On what authority do you state these claims, are they from the House of Pfauci, perhaps?
     

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