Permissive Sex Ed Linked to Higher Pregnancy, Abortion Rates.

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  1. Zeffy

    Zeffy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My parents taught my brother and I that they didn't believe in sex before marriage but that times were changing (this was the 70's) and we had to make up our own minds. Besides that, they couldn't stop us if we were determined to do it, so they taught us to protect ourselves. They also said if we got pregnant/caused a pregnancy they would support us in any way they could, though not financial as they couldn't afford to. I never had sex while living at home, therefore no pregnancies and my brother, to my knowledge, didn't either.

    Oh, and we grew up in a Christian home.
     
  2. danielpalos

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    How much higher pregnancy and abortion would there be even with permissive sex ed., if IUDs are easier to obtain?
     
  3. OKgrannie

    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's no such thing as "permissive" sex ed. The correct term is comprehensive sex ed.
     
  4. danielpalos

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    Are you implying that comprehensiveness may preclude a need for the medical procedure of abortion in modern times due to an age old adage that claims an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It would certainly reduce it. Although there would probably always be a need for a few abortions.
     
  6. DentalFloss

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    Absolutely. If every woman were on birth control, and every fertile couple used condoms unless and until they were intentionally trying to make a baby, we'd have much less unwanted babies and much fewer abortions. Sadly, those opposed to abortion are also virulently opposed to birth control.
     
  7. Allie Licious

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    No, we are opposed to PP and their sex education shams.

    Also we're opposed to federal funding of genocide...
     
  8. danielpalos

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    Why are you against the prevention of any need for "genocide"?
     
  9. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    So you don't want people to use birth control, nor have abortions. What is your suggestion to prevent unwanted pregnancy? Aim for the chin?
     
  10. Gemini_Fyre

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    This post operates under the retarded assumption that genocide is needed. Genocide is not needed.
     
  11. Gemini_Fyre

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    Hogwash, people oppose child slaughter, not the prevention of conception. Sure some fundies do but I think it is safe to say we aren't those types.

    Aim for the chin? This is a matter of personal preference I expect.
     
  12. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    still going over the old things I see, is this along the same lines as your false claim that kids are taught how to have sex, and it has been pointed out to you, with evidence, that PP abortions are not federal funded .. but just in case you missed it.

    http://www.nchla.org/datasource/ifactsheets/4FSHydeAm22a.08.pdf

    PP is also a non-profit organisation which has to account for its received money, if federal money were being used for abortion it would certainly show up in those accounts .. unless of course you are advocating that PP are "cooking the books" .. this would be an interesting item to see you prove.
     
  13. RPA1

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    Sometimes one needs to use shocking words to illicit an emotional response that may catch the attention of the mind-numbed media-created liberals. If you read my comments, you will see that I am advocating for boys NOT to be irresponsible. Your picking on one word is nothing short of lying by omission. Shame on you.

    And BTW, I was asking YOU about your supposed moral relativity. Instead of answering you are ducking it by pettifogging.
     
  14. danielpalos

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    Isn't that what preventing any perceived need for "genocide" is all about?
     
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    Just in case you missed this too...

    Ms. Johnson’s account, that Planned Parenthood provides no meaningful separation of funds to ensure tax dollars do not subsidize its abortion business, is supported by the Commissioner of the Indiana State Department of Health’s analysis of Planned Parenthood’s commingling of funds with regards to Medicaid. In the ongoing case challenging Indiana’s abortion-funding restriction, the Commissioner notes that “[Planned Parenthood of Indiana]’s audited financial statements for 2009 and 2010 give rise to a reasonable inference that it commingles Medicaid reimbursements with other revenues it receives.”

    The problem may run deeper than commingling of funds and using taxpayer dollars for shared overhead. Two recently unsealed “whistleblower” lawsuits allege that Planned Parenthood is illegally – and intentionally – funding its abortion services with taxpayer dollars.

    http://www.lifenews.com/2012/10/28/planned-parenthoods-taxpayer-funding-subsidizes-its-abortions/
     
  16. Allie Licious

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    Where on earth did I say that?

    Oh, I see.... you've bought the hype that if there is no PP, then contraception will disappear off the face of the earth.

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    You will never convince pro-abortion monsters of that.

    They think the way to help people out in, say, ethiopia, or darfur..is to ensure they don't breed.

    Brilliant! They're already being decimated, let's hurry things up!
     
  17. waltky

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    Granny says, "Dat's right...
    :grandma:
    ... if ya go puttin' ideas inna kids heads...

    ... naturally dey gonna wanna try it out...

    ... so it stands to reason...

    ... if ya stop dat lib'ral sexy ed stuff...

    ... ya gonna cut down on...
    :cool:
    ... higher pregnancy rates an' abortions.
     
  18. Anders Hoveland

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    They're teaching 12 year olds how to have oral sex with eachother and you wonder why the teenage pregnancy rate has shot up??!

    What exactly is the cost of all this "sexual freedom"? So many fetuses...
     
  19. Montoya

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    So we should just pretend that no one has oral sex and that sex is a dirty "sinful" act when its done for fun and not solely procreation?
     
  20. Anders Hoveland

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    Would it be so politically incorrect to emphasise to chidren that sex should ideally be kept within a committed marital relationship?
    And to teach them the potential consequences of sex outside such a committed relationship, particularly for the little life brought into this world?
     
  21. OKgrannie

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    Really, are you going take something from life news seriously?
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I am pretty sure teenage pregnancy rates have actually gone DOWN.
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    No it would not actually and I don't know why you don't think people don't stress this to them already. You can't ignore the fact that most people do date though and they 'try' what's out there until they find the right match for them. You can tell people to keep it in a committed relationship all you want that's not going to change the fact that they still have to do a lot of dating to find the right person for them and believe it or not sexual compatibility is very important to some people. That is why having a comprehensive sexual education is important so that through all the dates and all the sex until they find their compatible match they don't end up unexpectedly pregnant by someone they don't even like or they don't end up with an STD.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/what-makes-two-people-sexually-compatiable-with-each-other
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ompatibility-the-importance-your-satisfaction
     
  24. WhatNow!?

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    UHHHH, oral sex doesn't produce pregnancies nor abortions.....get a book on the subject , it'll 'splain it....:)

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  25. DentalFloss

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    Yes, it would be. That runs contrary to normal human behavior. Plus it's boring as hell.

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    They are at all time historical lows. Not that the anti's care about actual facts.
     

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