Permissive Sex Ed Linked to Higher Pregnancy, Abortion Rates.

It's no more than we have come to expect from your ilk, along with the rabid C&P's

 

So because my method of raising my children does not coincide with your mindset I am abnormal? This is hardly a compelling point to put forth.

 

"Table 34 set the stage for what has become dogma in the sex world: All humans are sexual from birth, and since children are sexual, they should be expected to behave sexually. Does this mean that children should be able to have sex with adults? Kinsey didn't say, but he wrote that the psychic damage to children who have sex with adults comes from the horrified reaction of adults, not from the sex itself. That opinion, a very large bone tossed to advocates of adult-child sex, has become a mantra in the sex world. Some who promote the mantra are sincere--a show of horror by parents of an abused child may indeed make matters worse. But many are advocates of adult-child sex hiding behind a pro-child argument. In my Time days, the air was so thick with sex-world arguments in favor of incest and adult-child sex that I threw a lot of them together in a one-page report. The list included a defense of incest by Wardell Pomeroy, a coauthor of the Kinsey reports. "

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/articles/041122/22john.htm

Regarding your idiocy about never telling your kids what to do, and letting them make their own decisions, sounds like a meme of a "child's rights" weirdo to me. Children don't spring from the womb with a fully developed sense of what is dangerous and what is not. Most children will run into moving traffic without a restraining hand...even though they *know* they might get hit. They aren't equipped to make decisions about sex, and the idea that children are sexual and should be encouraged in that sexuality, DESPITE the fact that sex with/between children is ILLEGAL is straight from the Grand Pervert Kinsey's play book, based on all those hours spent sexually torturing children. You expose children to sex at a young age, you immediately set them up as victims.

But progressives don't recognize that, because they find it impossible to acknowledge the criminality of promoting childhood sexuality to children.

 

Wrong. It is illegal for adults to have sex with minors - in my country the age is 16 - but it is not illegal for minors to have sex with others of their same age or a year or two (max. 5?) older.

Myself, I don't think minors should be having sex (and I didn't have it as a minor) but the FACT is they are going to do it if they are determined to and it's better for the to know how to protect theselves against pregnancy and disease.

 

yup...religious/morality based standards of behaviour in the animal world are abnormal...

 

Not really. Wolves will kill pack members who have sex where they shouldn't, or who have litters that aren't approved by the leaders.

 

exactly, they will do whatever they want telling them not to will have no effect if they're determined to do it...

our sex/age requirements are purely social constructs, our advances in technology allow our children to remain children longer than in our hunter gatherer past when motherhood was essential in the early teens for survival of of the group, is was essential that adulthood come early when average lifespan was only 30yrs...with longer lifespans today we can allow our children to remain free from adult responsibilities longer but that doesn't mean their natural instinct and drive for sex is turned off...our modern societies no longer require them to become parents early for our survival but their future economic well being requires their not becoming parents to young...and none of all that has anything to do with morality...

 

which has nothing to do with morality, wolf reproduction is based on food supply, if food is plentiful more than one pair will breed...wolves breed with outsiders not family members, inbreeding occurs with isolated groups with no outside contacts...

 

You can analyze it all you like, the end result is the same.

They do have sex with relatives, they do punish for non-sanctioned sexual activity, and they do establish an accepted "norm" that in application is the same as "morality".

 

In retrospect, you are right, we are abnormal - in comparison to the rest of the world. I suppose that is fine with me. So my question to you is this: is it wrong or inferior to do so?

 

This applies to some, not to all.

What is the fascination with constructs? I have seen this garbage show up everywhere lately. A crash course in anatomy should be enough to figure this out.

Just because you can be having sex, doesn't mean you should be, or that it is even safe for you.

Let me put this in a more graphic term for you. Are you okay with a 45 year old male, having sexual intercourse with an 11 year old girl? Just because she starts menstruating does not mean that she is prepared to biological endure what a grown man can do to her body. The rigors alone of pregnancy should be reason enough to not entertain such nonsense. It is only slightly less disturbing if the male in question were 14 or 15, or even 11 himself.

Reproduction does in fact have biological limits, but sadly some demented individuals who molest/rape children do not respect things like common decency.

 

Your position is why our society is what it is. No boundaries and no morality. EVERYTHING IS MORAL TO YOU GUYS. Kids are stupid...real stupid, thats why we have laws that define what they can do. Should they be allowed to drink at 10? 12? 14? 16? etc....should they be able to have sex at 8? Do you think is healthy? Would you encourage someone of that age to drink and have sex? How about to do drugs? And if they are of adult mentality...should we also let them go to war? Buy a house? car? Hey let them drive at 10? 12?
And ya know pregnancy is normal...tell that to the baby haters on this board that think kids deserve abortion...that abortion is an excellent choice if ya want to kill something.
Morality does not matter to people who think like this...who think kids should be able to do anything because they are not stupid. TEenage sex is not right...it comes with consequences that no teenager should have to experience.

 

You're exactly right, it is garbage, and it comes straight from the mouths of "child rights activists" whose main objective is to de-criminalize sex with children.

The majority of people who insist that children are just little adults, and should be treated as such, especially in THIS particular conversation, are generally working towards a relaxation of taboos that will ultimately result in the decriminalization of sex crimes that involve children.

 

And ultimately, even if they ever achieve their designs of getting the law to look the other way, I still won't. Neither will a lot of people. The contempt for child abuse will be viciously checked by people like me. And people I know, make monsters like me look like kittens.

Sex with children was bad back then, is bad right now, and will be bad in the future. Decriminalizing it will not make it 'okay'. It just means they will be provoking their own executions by vengeful parents and other concerned parties. Not exactly the Christian solution, but then again I don't think the Savior had this in mind for small children either.

Probably why the same people want to take my guns too. Go ahead, it won't make a child molester/rapist live any longer. More than one way to execute a child molester. I'm an inventive bastard.

 

The problem is, this is so firmly entrenched into our system that it's just about impossible to root out. People have been force fed this crap from birth, and even those who know that abortion and PP's exploitation of women are bad have NO idea how bad it is, or how deliberate...or even who is involved in it.

I don't even think the ordinary rabid pro-abortionist ignoramus who posts on the internet has any inkling that Kinsey, PP, the Guttmacher Institute, the Kinsey Institute, the CDC and the APA are intrinsically and incestuously wed to one another. Their CEOs bounce between these organizations, proudly spewing their committment to the sexualization of children and braying their admiration for kinsey. We're taught to be in awe of the CDC and to not dare to question PP...and who tells us this? Why, Guttmacher, and the Kinsey Institute, so it must be true!

I find it laughable that someone actually quoted the Kinsey Institute's defense of Kinsey's studies (well yeah he screwed up, but we don't think it made any difference. Some defense.) as a valid argument. That's like quoting Mengele to *prove* Nazis were really good guys.

Anyway..some more interesting stuff:

"From some of the foregoing it will be obvious that the agendas of gays and pedophiles are closely connected. There is a commonality of research sources used for "scientific" support, an overlap of objectives and a similarity of language, cliches and tactics, particularly in the pursuit of "rights." In addition, a number of activists share both agendas. Compounding the problem is the fact that Alfred Kinsey, who laid
the foundations for the modem gay movement, implied a whole spectrum of non-traditional and abnormal sexual behaviors under the term homosexual. As John Gagnon has pointed out, "For 'homosexual,' Kinsey could have substituted any form of sexual activity .... He regarded it all as part of biological potential and mammalian heritage" (Human Nature, October 197.

"Also, Kinsey's view of human sexuality involved a continuum from heterosexual to homosexual and a parallel continuum from birth to death (see chapter 1). He did not believe in distinct categories of sexuality or in trying to force facts about behavior into "separate pigeon-holes" (Male Report p.639). The association of two agendas has been a problem for some in the gay movement who have resented the attempt by pedophiles to piggyback on adult homosexual and lesbian issues.

"Lesbian columnist Nancy Walker has said in response to North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) founder David Thorstad's claim that he is "fighting for the rights of children to control their own bodies": "Let Thorstad and his confreres at least say what the real issue is: that they want to [copulate with] children. Prepubescent children are not taboo because this is a sex-negative society, but because they can be physically hurt and may be psychologically injured as well by sexual intimacy with adults" (Time, September 7, 1981)."

http://www.drjudithreisman.com/archives/Kinsey_Sex_and_Fraud.pdf

 

Forget drawing and quartering, use a wood chipper on the slowest setting possible. Or more appropriately, let a legion of 12 year old victims beat the cretins to death - with whiffle bats.

 

Since there is no scientific consensus amonth subject matter experts that conception = a living human .. It would be false to teach otherwise.
The consensus is actually the opposite.

Sex is not only for procreation .. This puritan idea is .. well .. puritan !

I agree that it is probably best to waid for someone special .. and I think most kids do. The fact of the matter however is that many don't and that is their choice .. especially as they become adults.

As such they should be taught about contraception methods to avoid pregnancy.

They should also be given correct information about abortion so that they can make an informed choice should an accident happen.

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Well .. dogs eat their own pooo but that does not mean humans should follow.

 

How true.

 

Having consensual sex is disrespectful towards women how, exactly?

 

In and of itself, it isn't. It is the precursor that is.

Contrary to what the false gods and idols of hollywood might teach you, there is more to a relationship than simply bumping uglies. Certainly that is a part of a relationship if one cares to take it to that level.

Women have thoughts, feelings, rights etc... Sex is not requisite to a woman's attention. Women are being sold this line that they need to have sex in order to keep their boyfriend interested. This is simply not the case. And it is destructive to a society. Men feel like they are entitled to enjoying women's bodies at their leisure.

Also, this particular segment of deviants want to expand the entitlement to include children. Not grown women capable of both resisting effectively, or simply knowing better and having the sense of mind and courage to not put up with abuse.

If women had higher standards of the men this problem would self correct. But this isn't about women - its about boys, girls, and children collectively.

 

seriously you need to upgrade your education, spouting mythical nonsense isn't cool...

 

it's abnormal...sex is normal and healthy, any social constraints claiming otherwise are abnormal and unhealthy...